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Suicide, Quarterbacks and the Hilinski Family

Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:49 pm
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IRVINE, Calif. — Ryan Hilinski got the talk in March, two months after his older brother died.

“You can walk away,” his parents, Mark and Kym, and eldest brother, Kelly, told him. Deep down, part of them would be relieved if he did. If he were younger, they would have forbidden him to play football altogether.

But Ryan was almost 18 years old and one of the best high school quarterbacks in the country. ESPN would name him the top pro-style quarterback in the class of 2019. More than 30 colleges would offer him full scholarships, including blue bloods like Georgia, Ohio State and Louisiana State, and his childhood dream school, Stanford. He had worked too long and accomplished too much for them to take this away from him now.

Only he could decide whether to keep pursuing the sport that may have led to his brother Tyler’s suicide, a death that stunned nearly everyone who knew him. One day Tyler was the likely starting quarterback for a team on the rise. The next, he was dead.

Tyler Hilinski shot himself in a closet inside his Pullman, Wash., apartment on Jan. 16. He was 21. Four months earlier he had been carried off the field after leading the Washington State Cougars to an electric triple-overtime victory over Boise State. His parents last saw him alive a few weeks before his death, on a family vacation in Mexico. He seemed happy and healthy, which only haunts them further. Where were the warning signs that their middle son wanted to take his own life?

“We have no clue what happened,” Mark said. “We will sit here for the next 20 years and not know what the heck happened to Tyler.”

The biggest window into Tyler’s mind arrived posthumously, via a brain autopsy conducted by the Mayo Clinic. It revealed that he had chronic traumatic encephalopathy, a neurodegenerative disease brought on by repeated head trauma.



A subject that won't go away.
Posted by Tiny Rick
In a vat in the garage
Member since Jan 2016
1517 posts
Posted on 12/14/18 at 11:59 pm to
Why not scan HS seniors going into Collegiate athletics? Make them aware of their current state and educate them on how the rigors of college athletics will more than likely make it worse. Give them an option to stop then and there. Make parents aware of their child’s currrent state. As a parent, if someone told me my kid already suffered some mild trauma and knowing it would more than likely get worse at the college level between practices and games, I’d want the option to try and talk my kid out of it. Think of how these parents feel. They more than likely blame themselves in some form or fashion. What if they had that option or were at least educated to it?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:01 am to
where's tom rinaldi when you need him

:insertsadmusic:
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21849 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:03 am to
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He has dealt with worse in person, like the opposing player who insulted Tyler during a game, or the classmate who waved a flier advertising a suicide awareness event in Ryan’s face and told him, “You should have told your brother to go to this.” Each time, Ryan walked away. Afterward, he would call Kelly to rage about their cruelty and his helplessness.

He needs to throw some hands
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40347 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:03 am to
I thought CTE can only be determined after death
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61041 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:06 am to
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Why not scan HS seniors going into Collegiate athletics?


The only way to check for definitive proof of CTE is after death.

This post was edited on 12/15/18 at 12:08 am
Posted by Tiny Rick
In a vat in the garage
Member since Jan 2016
1517 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:56 am to
Damn. Did not know that.

You would think they could run a scan and see activity differences.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70667 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 7:49 am to
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Damn. Did not know that.

You would think they could run a scan and see activity differences.



Yep.

One possibility is to scan people who suspect they have CTE and scan people who are highly unlikely (ie, never played contact sports). Then wait for everyone to die of natural causes and test the brains. See what matches.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48807 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 8:55 am to
How much of CTE is junk science?
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3629 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 9:04 am to
It is pretty expensive right now. There has been discussion to test Veterans who have been in IEDs and bomb scenarios but it never can pass the economic analysis phase
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48807 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 9:06 am to
BUt we can spend trillions on generational welfare, housing, food stamps and Medicare for people who are a huge net loss for society.......

SAD
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98815 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:36 am to
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How much of CTE is junk science?


IMO it’s not junk science as much as it is new science that’s still developing.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52722 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 10:54 am to
“Junk science” has become a term used by retards who are emotionally incapable of accepting what science is telling them. Most have no real argument.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9324 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 11:46 am to
Who you going to believe me or your lying eyes.....?
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14763 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 12:16 pm to
He ended up signing with South Carolina. Hoping he lights it up for the only other SEC team I like
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24233 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

He has dealt with worse in person, like the opposing player who insulted Tyler during a game, or the classmate who waved a flier advertising a suicide awareness event in Ryan’s face and told him, “You should have told your brother to go to this.” Each time, Ryan walked away.

Sometimes it's better to beat the shite out of someone than to walk away. Some people need a lesson that might help them in life.
Posted by Soup Sammich
Member since Aug 2015
3301 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 4:05 pm to
it seems like helmet technology needs a big improvement.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98077 posts
Posted on 12/15/18 at 5:00 pm to
We need a comparative study on Rugby players. That would tell you if the problem is equipment/technique related, or intrinsic to impact sports.
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