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re: Stephen Curry said he didn’t know enough about Chinese history to speak on it.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:27 am to JohnHager913
Posted on 10/10/19 at 7:27 am to JohnHager913
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Stephen Curry said he didn’t know enough about Chinese history to speak on it.
The last people Im going to take political advice from are NBA players. This should probably be the answer for all the players.
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Posted on 10/10/19 at 10:39 am to chalmetteowl
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Warriors fans would rather him be on the court and in the gym
So you’re saying that they want him to shut up and dribble?!
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:45 am to JohnHager913
Not that I buy Curry & Kerr's deflect in this situation. But the vast majority of Americans aren't exactly experts on the history of China. At best they know who Red Panda is and believe General Tso chicken was created there.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:48 am to JBeam
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But the vast majority of Americans are exactly experts on the history of China.
Glad I know you're not retarded, cause I did a double take at first
You're not wrong in your actual meaning.
As for Curry & Kerr, the ultimate point is still that they love being on top of social justice movements, and when it comes to one of the hottest, most widely covered news stories for the last several months, just zip, nada, zero, nothing. I don't think you're arguing against that, for the record.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:51 am to Kodar
i don't think it's unreasonable to admit what you don't know and not say something just to say something. I think any other take on that is pretty idiotic
Posted on 10/10/19 at 11:55 am to vodka
quote:Correct. That however falls flat when applied to individuals like Kerr who had very relevant, up to date comments for social justice events within hours/days of occurrence, and their takes were usually very strong.
i don't think it's unreasonable to admit what you don't know and not say something just to say something.
Now we have a major political world event that has been hot in the news for months, and it's not even a divisive issue here in the states. Suddenly, nothing. That is the hypocrisy that is getting them shite.
ETA: shite, it's even made worse just because this is heavily tied to the NBA, and has been due to their business partnership with China. They have even less of an excuse to pretend they know nothing.
This post was edited on 10/10/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:06 pm to jlntiger
But it’s not a black-and-white situation. Many on the mainland oppose the anarchy in Hong Kong. Hell, most of the world’s leaders have backed China in this. Including our own president.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:12 pm to JohnHager913
For a group of people who don’t really GAF about what athletes have to say about politics, you guys surely are giving a frick about what these guys are saying (or not saying) now
Buncha hypocrites
Buncha hypocrites
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:14 pm to Mr. Hangover
They want to talk about politics when it is convenient, they better expect a huge ration of shite when they get asked about it when it is hard.
I’d be fine with NO politics in my sports, but I’m not the one using the platform to try and push certain policies for street cred.
I’d be fine with NO politics in my sports, but I’m not the one using the platform to try and push certain policies for street cred.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:16 pm to chalmetteowl
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Stephen Curry said he didn’t know enough about Chinese history to speak on it.
smart man
Maybe so. But he went to Davidson, so he knows what is going on. Just too gutless to speak against the Communist overseers. I guess that is what passes for smart these days.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:17 pm to Mr. Hangover
The point
You
As I have stated already, the sole reason attention is on these athletes is due to the fact that in the past, they have always been extremely up to date on the latest social justice topic, and ready and willing to make a statement on it i.e. I can't breathe. The moment someone brings up real, tangible, severe oppression, especially regarding a major, well known news story that has been in the news for months, they go fricking silent. They don't have a comment.
Their hypocrisy is the point, not that they're staying out of politics now.
You
As I have stated already, the sole reason attention is on these athletes is due to the fact that in the past, they have always been extremely up to date on the latest social justice topic, and ready and willing to make a statement on it i.e. I can't breathe. The moment someone brings up real, tangible, severe oppression, especially regarding a major, well known news story that has been in the news for months, they go fricking silent. They don't have a comment.
Their hypocrisy is the point, not that they're staying out of politics now.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:19 pm to Mr. Hangover
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For a group of people who don’t really GAF about what athletes have to say about politics, you guys surely are giving a frick about what these guys are saying (or not saying) now
My position which I've rigorously maintained for years is that I'd rather entertainers/athletes eschew politics whether I agree with them or not. It always leads to far more divisiveness, and undercuts their uniquely galvanizing, positive talents.
The reason this story is getting so much attention is not merely the commentary on the sociopolitical issues at hand, but rather the league's behavior on THIS issue not matching up with their previous unabashed stances/behaviors over issues of lesser import, by comparison.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:22 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I haven't been keeping up with this whole saga and really only started paying attention today. My question, which is admittedly ignoratn and probably silly, is what are these people (players, coaches, etc) afraid of?
If curry or kerr or whoever else came out and said "oh yeah man, that situation is awful. CAn't believe what they're doing over there, it's despicable. Those people deserve better" or something, what repercussions are they scared of? I realize china gives the NBA a lot of money, which is why this whole thing is an issue anyway, but it's not like the players or coahces are going to lose money somehow could they?
If curry or kerr or whoever else came out and said "oh yeah man, that situation is awful. CAn't believe what they're doing over there, it's despicable. Those people deserve better" or something, what repercussions are they scared of? I realize china gives the NBA a lot of money, which is why this whole thing is an issue anyway, but it's not like the players or coahces are going to lose money somehow could they?
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:26 pm to WG_Dawg
salary cap is determined every year.
this could/would drop if china said goodbye .
it's losses of millions,.per player/coach
this could/would drop if china said goodbye .
it's losses of millions,.per player/coach
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:27 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:You vastly underestimate how uber sensitive the Chinese government is to the slightest big of opposition. The whole reason this mess started is because Daryl Morey (GM of the Rockets) made a singular tweet in support of HK. That's it. Nothing extreme, not even direct opposition to China. Just support of HK. Now, here we are.
but it's not like the players or coahces are going to lose money somehow could they?
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:27 pm to PhiTiger1764
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Of course they could. And that’s exactly why they are being quiet on the issue.
I guess I'm asking, in what way woudl they lose money? Woudl they be fined by the NBA for some kind of ambiguous behavior policy? Are there salries and contracts directly related to the amount of revenue and TV markets the games bring in? I honestly have no idea.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:27 pm to WG_Dawg
Money and a lot of it.
Silver sent out a memo to the league detailing what China shutting the door means to the league’s salary cap, which ended up being like $12m per team.
Combine that with players like Klay Thompson who get big money shoe deals from Chinese companies and they see their baller lifestyle going away.
Silver sent out a memo to the league detailing what China shutting the door means to the league’s salary cap, which ended up being like $12m per team.
Combine that with players like Klay Thompson who get big money shoe deals from Chinese companies and they see their baller lifestyle going away.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:28 pm to Mr Perfect
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salary cap is determined every year.
this could/would drop if china said goodbye .
it's losses of millions,.per player/coach
thank you, I didn't know this.
Posted on 10/10/19 at 12:28 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:They're concerned about the NBA market in China. It is not beneath the Chinese to literally remove the NBA 100% from China over 1 remark they don't like that the offender doesn't back down on. If enough NBA figures come out shitting on China and supporting HK, you can bet the house that the NBA will not have a place in China any longer.
I guess I'm asking, in what way woudl they lose money? Woudl they be fined by the NBA for some kind of ambiguous behavior policy? Are there salries and contracts directly related to the amount of revenue and TV markets the games bring in? I honestly have no idea.
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