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Stan Van Gundy calls into question the softness of todays’ NBA players
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:38 am
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:38 am
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Van Gundy tweeted the following which directly called out the number of injuries and games missed today compared to the 90s when teams had fewer resources. I think the answer is the modern basketball athlete is identified early and surrounded in a bubble from that early age and every little soreness shuts them down. It’s softness.
Van Gundy tweeted the following which directly called out the number of injuries and games missed today compared to the 90s when teams had fewer resources. I think the answer is the modern basketball athlete is identified early and surrounded in a bubble from that early age and every little soreness shuts them down. It’s softness.
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90’s NBA teams had just a trainer and a strength coach, they practiced more often and harder and played more back to backs. Teams now have huge medical & “performance” staffs and value rest over practice. Yet injuries and games missed are way up. Something’s not working!
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:43 am to HangmanPage1
For once this guy got something right.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:44 am to HangmanPage1
Amen brutha - preach! But you are yelling at the clouds Stan, the trend is going in the opposite direction and it ain't ever coming back. Sure, you will have the player here are there that plays through the hangnails, but these will be the exceptions.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:46 am to HangmanPage1
He’s not wrong. Today’s athletes are definitely softer and more selfish.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:48 am to HangmanPage1
Bunch of Pussies. They milk their injuries and lean on load management bullshite. Charge the fans astronomical amounts of money for tickets and sit out when they go on the road. Its bullshite for the common fan that works hard and pays for tickets to take their kid to the game and they sit because they are "tired". The NBA is turning a lot of people off with this shite. Golden State sitting their entire starting 5 both times against us at home is a prime example of a slap in the face to fans who paid good money and in turn have to watch a frickin G League team.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:49 am to TulaneFan
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selfish
That’s what it is
And they’re enabled by this ‘me first’ culture that’s been created by social media
The sad thing is that it’s expected these days and considered normal to act that way
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:51 am to HangmanPage1
People on here complain about this, but they all support it. They want players to sit out bowls or shut it down as soon as the team is out of contention. Each game should matter and players should be bought in. That is how it used to be..
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:51 am to HangmanPage1
i think players sitting out every other game has killed my interest in the nba more than anything else.
*random thursday night* oh cool the pelicans are playing the warriors. never mind, zion, bi, and steph are all out
*random thursday night* oh cool the pelicans are playing the warriors. never mind, zion, bi, and steph are all out
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:54 am to HangmanPage1
Uh...there is a reason why Kevin Durant and Lebron James are still close to GOAT mode play into their mid-30s and beyond.
Hell, Durant is doing this after an achilles tear. In the 90s that was an automatic career ender.
Hell, Durant is doing this after an achilles tear. In the 90s that was an automatic career ender.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:16 am to HangmanPage1
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90’s NBA teams had just a trainer and a strength coach, they practiced more often and harder and played more back to backs. Teams now have huge medical & “performance” staffs and value rest over practice. Yet injuries and games missed are way up. Something’s not working!
Some have the same theories about pitchers in baseball. Now all of a sudden, you have to come out of the game at 100 pitches. Wasn't the case for 100 years.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:24 am to HangmanPage1
Stan Van is part of the problem hard core promoting the woke perpetual victim status for these coddled black multimillionaires. Of course they’re soft.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:55 am to HangmanPage1
Where are the 90s New York Knicks when you need them!
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:56 am to HangmanPage1
Look no further than Brandon Ingram this year
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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Uh...there is a reason why Kevin Durant and Lebron James are still close to GOAT mode play into their mid-30s and beyond.
Hell, Durant is doing this after an achilles tear. In the 90s that was an automatic career ender.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:23 am to Tigerfan1274
quote:There are theories that are floating around about this.
Some have the same theories about pitchers in baseball. Now all of a sudden, you have to come out of the game at 100 pitches. Wasn't the case for 100 years.
There has been a significant reduction in pitcher workload over the years in the MLB, but the number of Tommy John surgeries has increased.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:27 am to Scruffy
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There has been a significant reduction in pitcher workload over the years in the MLB, but the number of Tommy John surgeries has increased.
I think that's travel ball finally taking its toll on adults bodies. That and having to have a specific slot release because xyz and these throwing motions are also due to it.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:59 pm to HangmanPage1
All 4 Major Sports have gone soft. Whether hoops, MLB, NFL or NHL.
The simple, obvious reason -- nobody wants to risk all that easy $$$ getting hurt, so the rules have softened to accommodate its "star" cupcakes and princesses.
1990s NBA game defenses used to be a no holds barred grueling, body-banging war (ex: Pistons v Knicks.)
In MLB, Umps have ruled no more backing off batters up and in / high and tight (even though batters wear body armor.) No more catchers blocking the plate, no more runners going in hard on the SS/second basemen to break up DPs.
NO more fighting in the NHL (now they just dance, slap each other with a purse, then get wrestled to the ice by the refs.)
NFL -- Limited / controlled NFL body-hits -- both scope of the sidelines, middle of the field and intensity (esp with respect to Receivers & QBs)
Annnnd... these are reasons why today's 2010s+ pro sports across the board are far inferior play (and a far inferior watch) compared to the 1990s.
The simple, obvious reason -- nobody wants to risk all that easy $$$ getting hurt, so the rules have softened to accommodate its "star" cupcakes and princesses.
1990s NBA game defenses used to be a no holds barred grueling, body-banging war (ex: Pistons v Knicks.)
In MLB, Umps have ruled no more backing off batters up and in / high and tight (even though batters wear body armor.) No more catchers blocking the plate, no more runners going in hard on the SS/second basemen to break up DPs.
NO more fighting in the NHL (now they just dance, slap each other with a purse, then get wrestled to the ice by the refs.)
NFL -- Limited / controlled NFL body-hits -- both scope of the sidelines, middle of the field and intensity (esp with respect to Receivers & QBs)
Annnnd... these are reasons why today's 2010s+ pro sports across the board are far inferior play (and a far inferior watch) compared to the 1990s.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:33 pm to HangmanPage1
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It’s softness.
It's money. These guys get paid so much now that teams are terrified at the prospect of a long term injury, so guys don't play through as much stuff as they used to.
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:37 pm to VADawg
Maybe the NBA needs to expand the calendar and eliminate the back to backs
That might help
I still can't believe the Warriors showed up to New Orleans twice and sat their entire starting lineup both times
That's what the NBA should be targeting for fines and lost draft capital
That might help
I still can't believe the Warriors showed up to New Orleans twice and sat their entire starting lineup both times
That's what the NBA should be targeting for fines and lost draft capital
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