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Stan Van Gundy calls into question the softness of todays’ NBA players

Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:38 am
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:38 am
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Van Gundy tweeted the following which directly called out the number of injuries and games missed today compared to the 90s when teams had fewer resources. I think the answer is the modern basketball athlete is identified early and surrounded in a bubble from that early age and every little soreness shuts them down. It’s softness.

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90’s NBA teams had just a trainer and a strength coach, they practiced more often and harder and played more back to backs. Teams now have huge medical & “performance” staffs and value rest over practice. Yet injuries and games missed are way up. Something’s not working!

Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
6949 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:43 am to
For once this guy got something right.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14458 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:44 am to
Amen brutha - preach! But you are yelling at the clouds Stan, the trend is going in the opposite direction and it ain't ever coming back. Sure, you will have the player here are there that plays through the hangnails, but these will be the exceptions.
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14033 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:46 am to
He’s not wrong. Today’s athletes are definitely softer and more selfish.
Posted by smoke225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7865 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:48 am to
Bunch of Pussies. They milk their injuries and lean on load management bullshite. Charge the fans astronomical amounts of money for tickets and sit out when they go on the road. Its bullshite for the common fan that works hard and pays for tickets to take their kid to the game and they sit because they are "tired". The NBA is turning a lot of people off with this shite. Golden State sitting their entire starting 5 both times against us at home is a prime example of a slap in the face to fans who paid good money and in turn have to watch a frickin G League team.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8100 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:49 am to
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selfish


That’s what it is



And they’re enabled by this ‘me first’ culture that’s been created by social media

The sad thing is that it’s expected these days and considered normal to act that way
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9754 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:51 am to
People on here complain about this, but they all support it. They want players to sit out bowls or shut it down as soon as the team is out of contention. Each game should matter and players should be bought in. That is how it used to be..
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
COINTELPRO Fan
Member since May 2012
55523 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:51 am to
i think players sitting out every other game has killed my interest in the nba more than anything else.

*random thursday night* oh cool the pelicans are playing the warriors. never mind, zion, bi, and steph are all out
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
420866 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:54 am to
Uh...there is a reason why Kevin Durant and Lebron James are still close to GOAT mode play into their mid-30s and beyond.

Hell, Durant is doing this after an achilles tear. In the 90s that was an automatic career ender.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:14 am to
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3114 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:16 am to
quote:

90’s NBA teams had just a trainer and a strength coach, they practiced more often and harder and played more back to backs. Teams now have huge medical & “performance” staffs and value rest over practice. Yet injuries and games missed are way up. Something’s not working!


Some have the same theories about pitchers in baseball. Now all of a sudden, you have to come out of the game at 100 pitches. Wasn't the case for 100 years.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
66871 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:24 am to
Stan Van is part of the problem hard core promoting the woke perpetual victim status for these coddled black multimillionaires. Of course they’re soft.
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25689 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:55 am to
Where are the 90s New York Knicks when you need them!
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
10657 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:56 am to
Look no further than Brandon Ingram this year
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110488 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Uh...there is a reason why Kevin Durant and Lebron James are still close to GOAT mode play into their mid-30s and beyond.

Hell, Durant is doing this after an achilles tear. In the 90s that was an automatic career ender.

This
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71983 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:23 am to
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Some have the same theories about pitchers in baseball. Now all of a sudden, you have to come out of the game at 100 pitches. Wasn't the case for 100 years.
There are theories that are floating around about this.

There has been a significant reduction in pitcher workload over the years in the MLB, but the number of Tommy John surgeries has increased.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20800 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:27 am to
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There has been a significant reduction in pitcher workload over the years in the MLB, but the number of Tommy John surgeries has increased.


I think that's travel ball finally taking its toll on adults bodies. That and having to have a specific slot release because xyz and these throwing motions are also due to it.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8264 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 12:59 pm to
All 4 Major Sports have gone soft. Whether hoops, MLB, NFL or NHL.

The simple, obvious reason -- nobody wants to risk all that easy $$$ getting hurt, so the rules have softened to accommodate its "star" cupcakes and princesses.

1990s NBA game defenses used to be a no holds barred grueling, body-banging war (ex: Pistons v Knicks.)

In MLB, Umps have ruled no more backing off batters up and in / high and tight (even though batters wear body armor.) No more catchers blocking the plate, no more runners going in hard on the SS/second basemen to break up DPs.

NO more fighting in the NHL (now they just dance, slap each other with a purse, then get wrestled to the ice by the refs.)

NFL -- Limited / controlled NFL body-hits -- both scope of the sidelines, middle of the field and intensity (esp with respect to Receivers & QBs)

Annnnd... these are reasons why today's 2010s+ pro sports across the board are far inferior play (and a far inferior watch) compared to the 1990s.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44621 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:33 pm to
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It’s softness.


It's money. These guys get paid so much now that teams are terrified at the prospect of a long term injury, so guys don't play through as much stuff as they used to.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42182 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 1:37 pm to
Maybe the NBA needs to expand the calendar and eliminate the back to backs
That might help
I still can't believe the Warriors showed up to New Orleans twice and sat their entire starting lineup both times
That's what the NBA should be targeting for fines and lost draft capital
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