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re: Should PI calls be reviewed?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:21 pm to DestrehanTiger
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:21 pm to DestrehanTiger
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There is something nice about watching a play and knowing that my initial reaction doesn't have to be questioned every time.
In the 80's/90's when your team scored a TD you'd immediately jumped out of the chair and cheer. Then in 2000's you were like...wait, wait...is there a flag?
Then this decade you were like wait, wait...is that even a catch...will they say it's not a catch...we now have to wait 5 minutes to confirm a TD.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 1:22 pm
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:24 pm to Master of Sinanju
quote:the let you challenge a PI that was called. Not a non PI.
Doesn't the CFL do this? They seem to make it work.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:25 pm to TigersHuskers
I don't understand why penalties aren't just called from the booth. With all of the cameras and technology on the field now we can see the QB's nose hair why not just have a crew in the booth and the guys on the field have headsets. If we are able to see penalties while watching on TV why couldn't they in a booth rather than reviewing a missed or a poorly called play.
I understand there would be a little delay. You wouldn't have a flag thrown immediately because you'd have to have time to call it down to the field, but I feel like it would be much more accurate. There's gotta be a way.
I understand there would be a little delay. You wouldn't have a flag thrown immediately because you'd have to have time to call it down to the field, but I feel like it would be much more accurate. There's gotta be a way.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 1:28 pm to castorinho
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the let you challenge a PI that was called. Not a non PI.
Being reported now that the NFL will do this if anything. So what happened Sunday wouldn’t matter. But I’m guessing if it were reviewable that refs would be likely to call it and let review sort it out like they do with turnovers now.
I do like the idea that you can review these calls but the refs shouldn’t be allowed a slow mo view. On those down the field plays slow motion can really take away some context from the play.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 2:04 pm to ProfFrink
Making a pass interference a spot foul has always been completely idiotic.
Some people always say: oh if it were just 15 yds defenders would get pass interference penalties on purpose when they are beat.
Yet in college football this happens very rarely. Sure it happens occasionally, but not very often. Giving up 15 yards and an automatic first down on a penalty is pretty devastating as is.
Awarding a team 40, 50, 60, 70+ yards on a penalty is completely insane.
sadly the NFL will never change it because the NFL wants passing to be featured.
Some people always say: oh if it were just 15 yds defenders would get pass interference penalties on purpose when they are beat.
Yet in college football this happens very rarely. Sure it happens occasionally, but not very often. Giving up 15 yards and an automatic first down on a penalty is pretty devastating as is.
Awarding a team 40, 50, 60, 70+ yards on a penalty is completely insane.
sadly the NFL will never change it because the NFL wants passing to be featured.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 2:25 pm to TigersHuskers
It feels like change is coming in one of these forms:
-coach can challenge currently non-reviewable plays
-final few minutes PI is reviewable from the booth
I think most people just want them to get the calls right, especially in the final few minutes of games.
-coach can challenge currently non-reviewable plays
-final few minutes PI is reviewable from the booth
I think most people just want them to get the calls right, especially in the final few minutes of games.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 2:30 pm to JPLSU1981
when PI is a spot foul which could be a 50 yard penalty it should be reviewable.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:07 pm to Bamafan24
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when PI is a spot foul which could be a 50 yard penalty it should be reviewable.
And that's what some on here argued when the Saints got a 50 yard TD because of a hail mary spot foul a few games ago.
The refs marched the Saints up and down the field on two drives to take the lead. There were 3 PIs called in a row.
And I knew, they weren't going to get those calls in the playoffs. Regular season is a different animal.
I didn't know the Saints would get royally screwed but I knew all the calls they were getting with their explosive offense would make the offense so much less explosive and the D would have to win in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 1/22/19 at 3:10 pm to The Pirate King
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No, there is technically some form of PI on most routes. Whether offensive or defensive
If you want to blow your 3 challenges on ticky tack BS, go right ahead.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:01 pm to TigersHuskers
No
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:03 pm to TigersHuskers
I think we should have a real-time fan vote after every play to see if a penalty should have been called or what the outcome of the play should have been.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:07 pm to PEPE
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Some people always say: oh if it were just 15 yds defenders would get pass interference penalties on purpose when they are beat.
Some might also say in the playoffs you can actually do this without any repercussion. Here, you have an instance where the defender ADMITTED that's exactly what he did
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:18 pm to Alt26
He also said he was told it was tipped and he was good. So what.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:24 pm to Alt26
Why even have refs?
There is a subjective nature to many calls. My thought is that the game is already infringed upon already. The consequences should be suspension and/or termination. I’m sure a Reference Union fight will ensue but you can’t miss that call and be in an NFL ref especially when you’re suppose to be “best of the best” to be able to call this game.
I do think helmet to helmet should be reviewed by booth in that situation so in this case they can call down to field for review.
There is a subjective nature to many calls. My thought is that the game is already infringed upon already. The consequences should be suspension and/or termination. I’m sure a Reference Union fight will ensue but you can’t miss that call and be in an NFL ref especially when you’re suppose to be “best of the best” to be able to call this game.
I do think helmet to helmet should be reviewed by booth in that situation so in this case they can call down to field for review.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:32 pm to TigersHuskers
Heck no. Offense has all the advantages right now, anyway. If anything they should get rid of the bail out PI call on poorly underthrown balls.
I do agree with making it a 15 yard penalty instead of a spot foul.
I do agree with making it a 15 yard penalty instead of a spot foul.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:32 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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He also said he was told it was tipped and he was good. So what.
One of his teammates told him he thought it might have been tipped. Don't understand your argument here.
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:36 pm to TigersHuskers
Each team should get 3 challenges.
Otherwise reviewing every call and non-call would take forever.
My review system:
1. All scoring plays
2. All turnovers
3. Any close 4th down scrimmage play.
4. 3 challenges by the head coach. 15 yard penalty or loss of timeout if you are wrong
Otherwise reviewing every call and non-call would take forever.
My review system:
1. All scoring plays
2. All turnovers
3. Any close 4th down scrimmage play.
4. 3 challenges by the head coach. 15 yard penalty or loss of timeout if you are wrong
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:55 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
This discussion reminds me of the idea of replaying balls and strikes in baseball.
ALCS - Bases loaded, 2 outs, TOP of the 9th in a game 7 and the score is 2-1 home team. The pitcher throws one down the pipe but it’s called a ball plus batter made a check swing where it was clear he swung but umpire missed that call too so tying run scores. Visiting wins it in the 10th when they hit a HR in top of inning. Home team doesn’t score in bottom of 10th.
Imagine this happens to Red Sox or Yankees.
1) Should rules change based on events
2) What should happen to umpires?
ALCS - Bases loaded, 2 outs, TOP of the 9th in a game 7 and the score is 2-1 home team. The pitcher throws one down the pipe but it’s called a ball plus batter made a check swing where it was clear he swung but umpire missed that call too so tying run scores. Visiting wins it in the 10th when they hit a HR in top of inning. Home team doesn’t score in bottom of 10th.
Imagine this happens to Red Sox or Yankees.
1) Should rules change based on events
2) What should happen to umpires?
Posted on 1/22/19 at 4:56 pm to TigersHuskers
No. We're just going to open up the floodgates to start reviewing all infractions.
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