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re: Scottie Pippen says 95-96 Bulls would sweep Warriors
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:16 pm to volfan30
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:16 pm to volfan30
I said it before the Bulls are good enough on defense to make it very tough on Golden State. Pippen, Rodman and Jordan are top 25 defenders of all time. The issue comes on the reverse. Golden State is not containing Jordan, while still dealing Kukoc and Kerr on the outside, Scottie driving the lane and Rodman snagging moar and moar boards.
Golden State could not stop the Bulls on offense. That's the key right there.
Golden State could not stop the Bulls on offense. That's the key right there.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:17 pm to WalkingTurtles
It's not Kerr starting its Ron Harper and Harper was 6'5" who could shoot and defend also
Kerr was nothing but a role player.
People all of a sudden believe Kerr was all world.
Kerr was nothing but a role player.
People all of a sudden believe Kerr was all world.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:19 pm to volfan30
How come old players always do this? You can't compare eras other than pre- and post-segregation. The newer era should always have an advantage because they build on the experiences of the earlier one, but I have never seen anybody change their minds when they argue about it.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:21 pm to sms151t
Harper would be just another tool on defense limiting Curry/Green/Thompson. I mentioned Kerr because of his 3pt ability. By making Golden State play man and spread out, there is no matchup they win on defense really.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:31 pm to WalkingTurtles
That goes both ways. If Rodman is on Green all it takes is putting the bad matchup (Kerr or Kukoc) into PnR. Curry is hard enough to deal with even with great defenders; he'd feast on either of those matchups and he's surrounded by great 3pt shooters.
Longley would be completely useless on defense.
Longley would be completely useless on defense.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:33 pm to imraged
Again Kerr wouldn't be getting big minutes it would be Harper. Kerr was nothing but a role player he was Craig Hodges role
I don't know why people insist that Kerr is starting. It's like they never saw the Bulls play or looked at a stat sheet.
I don't know why people insist that Kerr is starting. It's like they never saw the Bulls play or looked at a stat sheet.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:35 pm to sms151t
If they couldn't sweep the Seattle Supersonics, why would they be able to sweep the Warriors?
That series would go 6-7 games.
That series would go 6-7 games.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:36 pm to AmericanSpirit
The Sonics were down 3-0 I think. The Sonics were pretty salty.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:47 pm to SabiDojo
Shawn Kemp and Gary Payton in their primes were pretty tough
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:48 pm to sms151t
quote:
Again Kerr wouldn't be getting big minutes it would be Harper.
Kerr and Harper played basically the same number of minutes in '96. Not that I watched every Bulls game that year or anything but from what I've seen they tended to close with Kukoc in place of Longley (hence the "Kerr or Kukoc"). In this hypothetical matchup I highly doubt Longley would be effective so your options are to either go with Kukoc as they tended to or go small with Kerr.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:02 pm to imraged
Phil Jackson vs. Steve Kerr (of now, not saying he won't be great)
Seriously, of the 95-96 Bulls do you not believe Phil could find the right lineup/recipe to beat GSW. if Steph goes off on 3's, who better in NBA history to calm down and focus his team.
Defense wins championships...Jordan has 6 rings bc of defense.
Seriously, of the 95-96 Bulls do you not believe Phil could find the right lineup/recipe to beat GSW. if Steph goes off on 3's, who better in NBA history to calm down and focus his team.
Defense wins championships...Jordan has 6 rings bc of defense.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:03 pm to imraged
This GS team hasn't won shite yet. I honestly think the SAS get them in the WCF. That Bulls team would do dirty things to GS. The Bulls actually matchup decently with regards to defending GS while GS is screwed trying to defend the Bulls.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:13 pm to Tiger Attorney
quote:Scorecasting, proven myth.
Defense wins championships
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:13 pm to imraged
Not in the playoffs Harper averaged 8-9 minutes more a game. In regular season they averaged same.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:30 pm to sms151t
I think the Bulls team would have problem with Curry on defense. All the 3 point shooters on this GS team would also give them fits. However, I believe with Phil's coaching, they'd eventually be able to limit the damage from GS' offense.
The bigger issue I see is how would GS be able to stop the Bulls offense? No one on that team could touch Jordan. He would shoot fade away after fade away from the post. Then you throw in the other shooters and slashers on that team, plus Rodman and the other big bodies they had.... It would not be pretty.
GS would get a game or two though, no way they'd get swept. However, I don't think it'd be all that competitive a series. Probably a blow out or two for the Bulls and maybe a squeaker or two for GS. I say Bulls in 6
The bigger issue I see is how would GS be able to stop the Bulls offense? No one on that team could touch Jordan. He would shoot fade away after fade away from the post. Then you throw in the other shooters and slashers on that team, plus Rodman and the other big bodies they had.... It would not be pretty.
GS would get a game or two though, no way they'd get swept. However, I don't think it'd be all that competitive a series. Probably a blow out or two for the Bulls and maybe a squeaker or two for GS. I say Bulls in 6
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:40 pm to Hmerly
Yes...6 games. This is absurd. There are better built teams to beat those Bulls.
Posted on 4/3/16 at 11:50 pm to Tiger Attorney
Let me guess how this thread has gone. Some rational discussion concluding it would be a great and close match-up of two amazing teams, all of which completely drowned out by people who happily profess to not watch the current NBA saying Pippen is totes correct.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 12:49 am to sms151t
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The Sonics were down 3-0 I think. The Sonics were pretty salty.
They had a better record than most teams of all time.
Sonics went 64-18.
A lot of people's GOAT team, and not just Bill Simmons and his big book of basketball... Went 67-15.
The 1986 Celtics.
Denigrating the Bulls for not sweeping an all-time team is silly and shows lack of historical IQ.
That's how dominant the Bulls were they made an all time great team irrelevant.
If the Warriors make this Spurs team irrelevant then we can talk. Because that Sonic team was the Spurs to that Bull team.
This post was edited on 4/4/16 at 12:51 am
Posted on 4/4/16 at 1:24 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
SRS is a better measurement of relative team strength and the '96 Sonics are outside of the top 40 by that standard. Not quite an all-time team but still a championship caliber team.
Posted on 4/4/16 at 2:11 am to imraged
The Bulls Death Line Up for the Neo NBA would be
Harper
Jordan
Pippen
Kukoc
Rodman
that's at the very least a neutralizing lineup to the Warriors Death Line Up...with the best player ever leading the way.
Harper
Jordan
Pippen
Kukoc
Rodman
that's at the very least a neutralizing lineup to the Warriors Death Line Up...with the best player ever leading the way.
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