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re: Safe to say that Herbert should have been the #1 pick in 2020

Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:06 pm to
Ok. Let’s see Cincy is 3-1 as is the Chargers…. Winning is EVERYTHING.

Didn’t you say that Lawrence was a better prospect than Burrow. Didn’t you say Tua was gonna be a way better QB than Burrow. I have read that you have said these things in your hatred for Burrow.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40089 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Didn’t you say that Lawrence was a better prospect than Burrow. Didn’t you say Tua was gonna be a way better QB than Burrow. I have read that you have said these things in your hatred for Burrow.


Yep.

Motherfricker should only be allowed to post on SECRant.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:42 pm to
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I don't get why any Bama QB is drafted in the first round...... They are playing with house money that is useless in the NFL.


Lol did you watch Sunday Night Football?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:52 pm to
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Herbert is great, but Chargers were a better team.

I can't see Herbert doing any better than Burrow in Cincy.

I can see Burrow doing just as well as a Charger. They are both great young QBs.

This should have ended the thread.

Anyone saying Herbert would have done better in Cincy is an idiot. Cincy's roster is hot garbage, and their management sucks too.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45788 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:08 pm to
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Didn’t you say that Lawrence was a better prospect than Burrow. Didn’t you say Tua was gonna be a way better QB than Burrow. I have read that you have said these things in your hatred for Burrow.


It’s pretty obvious that’s how this retard operates. Like an autistic Reddit shitbag troll. He’ll give you all these shitty takes and tell you how smarter he is than everyone. But bring up one his awful poorly-aged takes, and he checks out the conversation completely

Notice how he doesn’t acknowledge this post and goes back to an earlier post on a previous page to respond rofl
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:10 pm to
Lawrence is a better prospect than Burrow, that’s not debatable really so I don’t know why you are beating your chest over that, but you do you.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42067 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:43 pm to
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Herbert is a better QB right now but he went to a way better organization than Burrow did… however with what Burrow has had to work with he has done an excellent job.


From a performance and results standpoint, I don't see how one could say that the Chargers are a better organization than Cincy.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17789 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:52 pm to
Yet the OL sack rate went DOWN when Burrow went down
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42067 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Lol did you watch Sunday Night Football?


I didn't say that Mac Jones wasn't a good QB. I don't think just because he had a good game that jusitfy's his first round status. I believe that any Bama QB is playing with house money.

Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:59 pm to
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From a performance and results standpoint, I don't see how one could say that the Chargers are a better organization than Cincy.




Well clearly you haven’t drank(drunk?!) enough LSU koolaid

This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:03 pm to
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Yet the OL sack rate went DOWN when Burrow went down


The 6 games Burrow was out the Bengals attempted 30+ passes twice. They attempted 30+ in every game that burrow started.

The 6 games that Burrow was out they attempted 40+ passes 0 times. They attempted 40+ 5 times while Burrow was starting.

I wonder why the sack rate went down…..
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40089 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:11 pm to
And those numbers were thrown off by weeks 3 and 5.

Week 3 Burrow threw 44 times against the eagles and took 8 sacks.

Week 5 he took 7 sacks against Baltimore.

Has OP come up with a reason for why Burrow has a 113 passed rating to Herbert's 100?
Posted by ChiSaint
Silicon Valley, CA
Member since Feb 2008
374 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:16 pm to
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Ok. Let’s see Cincy is 3-1 as is the Chargers…. Winning is EVERYTHING


Not arguing about who is better but comparing their records is a little disingenuous. The combined records of the teams they've played:

Burrow: 4 - 12
Herbert: 10 - 6 (and this includes a 2 - 2 Chiefs team that will definitely be playoff bound)

Would the Bengals be 3 - 1 with the Chargers schedule? I'm going to say no way.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
12280 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:21 pm to
Once thing is for certain is The AFC is loaded with good/great young QBs. Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Mayfield. Throw in the rookies Jones, Lawrence, and Wilson.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140703 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:23 pm to
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Has OP come up with a reason for why Burrow has a 113 passed rating to Herbert's 100?


But could the higher rating be due to the less attempts and shorter yards/att and yards/completion?


I do not really always understand Passer Rating calculations
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127760 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:26 pm to
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But could the higher rating be due to the less attempts and shorter yards/att and yards/completion?


Burrow has a much higher yards per attempt than Herbert. 2 full yards more.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40089 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:27 pm to
Well, the next 6 weeks has them each playing Cleveland and Baltimore, so we shall see.

Plus, LA plays the Vikings, whom Burrow has already beaten, and Cincy plays Green Bay.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50702 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:33 pm to
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But could the higher rating be due to the less attempts and shorter yards/att and yards/completion?


I do not really always understand Passer Rating calculations


Burrows Y/A is much higher than Herberts this season.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40089 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 3:35 pm to
And Herbert has a better o-line.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17789 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 4:09 pm to
I'm guessing that you aren't aware of how rates work
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