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re: Ryan Clark on with Russillo today
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:33 pm to PT24-7
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:33 pm to PT24-7
quote:Not sure you are fully competent
If you feel words are more powerful than actions then I fundamentally disagree. If that was the case then who is the decider of what words are allowed and what are off limits? The N word might not bother some people as much as cracker devastates someone else. Who decides who's feelings are okay to hurt and who's aren't? Where does is stop?
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:34 pm to lsupride87
Just listened to that. It was great and I wished more people had that outlook, especially considering what he went through (I always wondered why his oldest daughter looked nothing like his wife. )
But what he did speaks testaments to his family, upbringing and character. There are A lot of people in this world that just aren't that strong. The hard thing to do is to go high when others go low and not let those interactions mold you negatively.
Unfortunately, there are far too many Americans, of all races, that let these isolated interactions mold their worldview. Then they pass it on to their kids. It's tragic
But what he did speaks testaments to his family, upbringing and character. There are A lot of people in this world that just aren't that strong. The hard thing to do is to go high when others go low and not let those interactions mold you negatively.
Unfortunately, there are far too many Americans, of all races, that let these isolated interactions mold their worldview. Then they pass it on to their kids. It's tragic
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:34 pm to PT24-7
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Exactly, he spoke and gave his opinion. Although it was wrong, does he not have that right?
Are you really trying to make this a free speech thing?
Cause pushing away the father of your grandbaby based on race is ridiculous
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:34 pm to lsupride87
Thats fine for you to feel that way Im just pointing out the hypocrisy of speaking words being so severe in your eyes and an action getting blown off. Both are racism, but as a society we seem to openly accept racism is some form and violently oppose it in others.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:35 pm to lsupride87
Hating is easy --- turning the other cheek and trying to see the good in others and not let those interactions ruin your POV on others is rhe hard things
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:36 pm to PT24-7
quote:Dont take this the wrong way, but are you high as balls man?
Thats fine for you to feel that way Im just pointing out the hypocrisy of speaking words being so severe in your eyes and an action getting blown off. Both are racism, but as a society we seem to openly accept racism is some form and violently oppose it in others.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:39 pm to lsupride87
I think the fact that my logic is over your head should open your eyes a bit. Can you deny what i am saying is true? You've been conditioned to detest racism in certain forms but dismiss it in others. Both are racism.
Let me flip the script. If a black guy told a white guy he'd never be able to make it to the nba would you be as outraged? After all words are words in both cases.
If a white guy picked another white guy over a black guy for a promotion would you be just as dismissive? After all, both are actions
Let me flip the script. If a black guy told a white guy he'd never be able to make it to the nba would you be as outraged? After all words are words in both cases.
If a white guy picked another white guy over a black guy for a promotion would you be just as dismissive? After all, both are actions
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:41 pm to PT24-7
quote:I dont know where I have denied anything
You've been conditioned to detest racism in certain forms but dismiss it in others. Both are racism.
quote:No. Telling someone they wont make the NBA doesnt outrage me the same as telling someone they will grow up to be a bad father and man
If a black guy told a white guy he'd never be able to make it to the nba would you be as outraged?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:42 pm to TheXman
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Ryan Clark seems to be a pretty smart dude. If ESPN wants to talk about race they are much better off giving him air time than people like Bomani Jones, Mike Smith or that lesbian jemele hill
Basically you're just scared of really intelligent black people, and ones that may force you to think.
Ryan Clark, although I do agree with his actions, make it really easily for others to feel good about themselves. Some might say he went soft on em.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:44 pm to StrongSafety
quote:I personally think Clark is just a caring smart man, who tells the truth.
Basically you're just scared of really intelligent black people, and ones that may force you to think.
Ryan Clark, although I do agree with his actions, make it really easily for others to feel good about themselves. Some might say he went soft on em.
I think Stephen A plays a character, but behind closed doors would echo very similar to what Clark said
I think Bomani is smart and plays a fake character as well for tv
I think Jemele is a complete fricking moron
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:45 pm to MontyFranklyn
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faced a similar situation. Now my FIL and MIL love me
To a man, kudos. It takes a lot of strength to not stoop to the level that your in laws were once at. I'm sure your a man with pride as well and felt like you didn't deserve that initial
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:47 pm to lsupride87
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No. Telling someone they wont make the NBA doesnt outrage me the same as telling someone they will grow up to be a bad father and man
Both are just voicing their opinions for future outcomes based on race. There is no difference. Only difference is in how emotionally attached you are to each item.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:50 pm to PT24-7
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There is no difference
quote:So there is a difference?
Only difference
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:52 pm to lsufball19
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and you missed the silver lining of that story. Ryan said it would have done him no good to get all mad and get into with the guy. If he had done that, the other guy wins. What Ryan did was prove the guy wrong by his actions, and two years later the guy apologized to Ryan and admitted he was wrong. That's how breakthroughs are made.
But that responsibility is unfairly shifted on Ryan. It's not Ryan's responsibility to not be a shite head. Not at all. It's not Ryan's job to raise a man. His father raised him well...his FIL clearly wasn't.
It's disheartening that someone people will hear that and then basically agree that the onus for racial change is on the persecuted when the persecutor has ever option and resources to change his/her ways.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:53 pm to lsupride87
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So there is a difference?
There is no difference in the action (or lack of). The only difference is with YOUR emotion. The item itself is the same except in your head.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:54 pm to PT24-7
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Both are just voicing their opinions for future outcomes based on race. There is no difference. Only difference is in how emotionally attached you are to each item.
yeah, one is a childhood dream and the other is your child. You should be more attached to that later.
301 people make the NBA it isn't much a stretch to say someone may not make it. I can still judge someone by that comment but it isn't a big deal. Attacking my ability to raise a child for no reason is different.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:55 pm to StrongSafety
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jemele hill
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ones that may force you to think.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:56 pm to Dire Wolf
100% opinion. Just because some things are more important to YOU doesn't change the fact that they are in fact just words.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:56 pm to PT24-7
quote:If one thinks to themself, that a black man has a statistically less chance of being a good father to a white man, that is human nature and everyone does this across multiple spectrums, such as your lame basketball analogy.
There is no difference in the action (or lack of). The only difference is with YOUR emotion. The item itself is the same except in your head
If that same person then attaches that to a specific person they dont know, and goes even further to straight up say, you WONT be a good father because your are black, that is racist and you are a a shitty person.
If you cant tell the difference I cant help you
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 3:12 pm to PT24-7
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100% opinion. Just because some things are more important to YOU doesn't change the fact that they are in fact just words.
To get back to clark's story, he had known the guy since he was 12 and then became his daughter grandfather. I don't know how you cannot see that would be emotional.
Even if it wasn't about race, I'd want the respect of my gf father. That is very personal.
I don't have the time of day for joe-blow telling a kid he cannot be NBA cause of race. It is stupid but a completely different level
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