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Reasons why UCLA shouldn't be allowed to join the Big 10

Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:51 am
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:51 am
Playing Ohio State, Michigan compared to Cal and Stanford would have a negative impact on students athletes mental health

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In a letter provided to the University of California Board of Regents ahead of a closed-door session Thursday to discuss UCLA's proposed move to the Big Ten conference, Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff detailed "significant concerns" he had with the move, including its effect on student-athlete mental health, increased travel and operational costs, and negative impacts on both Cal's revenue and the UC system's climate goals.



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Beyond the financial component of the added travel, Kliavkoff said "published media research by the National Institutes of Health, studies conducted by the NCAA, and discussions with our own student-athlete leaders" show the move will have a negative impact on student-athletes' mental health and take away from their academic pursuits. He added that it would also be a burden for family and alumni to face cross-country trips to see UCLA's teams play.

Finally, Kliavkoff said added travel runs contrary to the UC system's climate goals and works against UCLA's commitment to "climate neutrality" by 2025.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 7:53 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:56 am to
Further confirmation that California athletes are soft.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 7:57 am to
because a man who is aimlessly throwing shite at the wall is making a last ditch effort to sway people who have no real context or appreciation of sport so hes using stuff that they perceivably care about?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:00 am to
The fact the it’s even a possibility that the institutions he’s pitching but this line of
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aimlessly throwing shite at the wall
proves it.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 8:01 am
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:01 am to
Funny thing is he can't do shite about USC because it's a private school and it can do whatever it wants. And that's funny because USC football is the bigger acquisition in this move.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:03 am to
so what academic administrators find important is proof of what 18 year old kids find important? interesting
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145056 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:04 am to
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Funny thing is he can't do shite about USC because it's a private school and it can do whatever it wants.
they also cant do shite about UCLA. all they can do is try to implement measures that allow the board of regents to control moves like this in the future

its absurd that they feel they need to have that ability, but everything put forth is for future moves and has nothing to do with UCLAs
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35308 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:05 am to
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Funny thing is he can't do shite about USC because it's a private school and it can do whatever it wants. And that's funny because USC football is the bigger acquisition in this move.



Little brother is only getting bailed out because USC needs a travel partner.

Should have taken Stanford instead
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:17 am to
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Should have taken Stanford instead


Still to me seems like the perfect Big10 addition.

They don't need UCLA for the L.A. market once they got USC.

Then Stanford adds Bay Area Norcal and prestigious alumni to a degree. UCLA is 70% of students and alums who don't even watch sports.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 8:19 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145056 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:20 am to
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UCLA is 70% of students and alums who don't even watch sports.
.....and stanford would be an improvement
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 8:21 am
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 8:39 am to
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a man who is aimlessly throwing shite at the wall is making a last ditch effort to sway people


Certainly true but

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using stuff that they perceivably care about?


was a good thing for him to target. Not sure how such a stark increase in travel promotes UCLA's mission to achieve climate neutrality unless the Bruins decide to travel for their 11:00a game in NJ against Rutgers via fairy dust and unicorn farts.

Sort of like how the big wigs who promote climate change and reduction of our carbon footprint all travel via private jet, separately, to the annual Climate Summit.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:04 am to
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because a man who is aimlessly throwing shite at the wall is making a last ditch effort to sway people who have no real context or appreciation of sport so hes using stuff that they perceivably care about?


He may be salty, but if the schools in that system have to operate under these directives, it's much more than what you perceive they care about. He is right to shame either UCLA athletics and or the UC system for allowing this hypocricy for the sake of money.

I already know the counter argument of "well, the Pac 12 shouldn't suck so bad or they should have created a real network sooner to make more money". Guess what? UCLA is a huge reason why the Pac 12 hasn't been able to compete with the SEC, Big Ten, or ACC. There is no reason other than UCLA AD incompetence as to why they are a joke of a football program. They are culpable along with USC, Oregon, and Washington for the malaise that the PAC 12 operates in. They don't run good enough programs even with so much potential.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 9:39 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26639 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:31 am to
I don't give a shite about UCLA moving to the Big 10, but he's not wrong.

It creates a bunch of travel and missed school.

This is more about the non-revenue sports than football.

Posted by SeeeeK
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:33 am to
Also,. The pac12. Schools already cry about having to travel for 12 est. Games.

Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:34 am to
Let's be honest. If Rutgers and UCLA are in the same conference, then there are no more lines or borders in college football. Just make it a fricking free-for-all.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
89831 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:43 am to
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so what academic administrators find important is proof of what 18 year old kids find important? interesting


lol...that's what you get out of his comments?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35437 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 9:50 am to
Mental health? UCLA already crossed that bridge long ago.

The only mental health issue has been the Pac12 leadership.

There are numerous 2.5 hour flights in the Pac12 already.

Making it 5 hours to the farthest reaches of the Big10?

Who cares? Most Big10 schools are 3 hours away by plane anyways.
This post was edited on 9/23/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:01 am to
With the bigger crowds in the Rose Bowl when Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Iowa visit they can pay for mental health and reduce carbon footprint by buying more energy efficient vehicles on campus.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25428 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:08 am to
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I don't give a shite about UCLA moving to the Big 10, but he's not wrong.

It creates a bunch of travel and missed school.

GTFO here with that.

what the hell is the difference between hopping on a plane to fly 3 hours to Washington/Oregon, or hopping on a plane to fly 4-5 hours to BIG10 schools?

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This is more about the non-revenue sports than football.


that's a legit concern, but then you can say that's a bunch of horse shite as well as conferences like the WAC and CUSA have been spread out for many years.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26639 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 10:23 am to


For football, it's irrelevant. This is more about all the other sports that have more games and play during the week.

Sure other conferences have done some of this, but UCLA probably has more sports teams than any other school in the country.

Like I said, I don't care, but I'm also not going to pretend it's no big deal for UCLA to go play a women's soccer game on Wednesday night at Rutgers.

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