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Radical idea to try to improve NBA gameplay

Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:04 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:04 pm
I know this idea brings up a ton of issues, the most glaring is every scoring stat will be shattered and we would basically have to either deflate guys stats or make two categories. Another being an increase in ft’s

I really enjoy the NBA, but the advantage of the 3 can get silly at times, when a guy like Klay or Steph or Lilliard get hot they are unstoppable and their teams are nearly impossible to beat.

What if we made a regular fg worth 3 pts and what is currently a 3 pointer worth 4 pts?

That way a regular fg is worth 3/4 of a longer shot instead of 2/3

You COULD go even further and give a free point for every shooting foul that isn’t an and 1 and then 2 ft’s, which would make getting the ball inside a higher priority.


Again, crazy idea with lots of flaws, but i think it could work

Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:09 pm to
This would change nothing.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:10 pm to
This isn’t radical at all considering it’s supposed to already be a rule in some capacity.

Heavily review and enforce flopping after every game and fine players flopping. Once you accrue X amount of flops in a season, it’s a suspension every other game just like techs. Players can get X amount of flop warnings before the fines kick in as a small buffer in case the league/player makes a mistake or the NBAPA wants to bitch about the loss of income. You shouldn’t “accidentally” accrue more than 3 flops a season.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33914 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:10 pm to
That might be one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard. It would make NBA statistics that have been compiled over the history of the league virtually meaningless.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 7:12 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:12 pm to
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That might be one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard. It would make NBA statistics that have been compiled over the history of the league virtually meaningless.


Not really, it would be pretty easy to convert and compare.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:14 pm to
How would that change anything with regards to game play.

All it would do is increase the score of games.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:18 pm to
How about we just let floppers get punched in the face after the quarter is over?

It would hopefully reduce flopping and who doesn't like seeing people punched in the face?
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:18 pm to
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This would change nothing
Changing 2’s to 3’s and 3’s to 4’s would instantly turn the game back into the game of the 1990’s. The low post would become the most important thing, and big men would be big men again.

Not that I’m for it—it’s just that i can math.
Posted by Nobelium
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/10/21 at 7:29 pm
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:21 pm to
First team to 100 wins.

Eliminate the game clock, keep the shot clock.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:21 pm to
quote:


How would that change anything with regards to game play


The “three” becomes less efficient and theoretically more teams would play in the post more
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
31894 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:28 pm to
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It would make NBA statistics that have been compiled over the history of the league virtually meaningless.


Yea that is definitely an issue.

It makes the current 3 less efficient so the sabermetrics wouldn’t support all these crazy shots.
It would make the low post more important. And slow down this 50 3/game pace
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2103 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:34 pm to
How about they let each team set their own 3 point line? Similar to baseball parks having their own unique outfield dimensions. That would definitely make me watch more.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112196 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:38 pm to
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It makes the current 3 less efficient so the sabermetrics wouldn’t support all these crazy shots. It would make the low post more important. And slow down this 50 3/game pace


The values are the exact same if you change them by the same amount. Sabermetrics would want you shooting longer shots all the same vs mid range.
Posted by LouBega
Member since Dec 2017
999 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:38 pm to
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Crazy rule with lots of flaws


quote:

Think it could work


Oh ok.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59687 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:44 pm to
I actually like that idea. Would have to set some min and max lengths that were reasonable though.
Posted by artisticsavant
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:46 pm to
I clicked on this expecting you to suggest the game have rules similar to the Arch Rivals video game.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:48 pm to
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That way a regular fg is worth 3/4 of a longer shot instead of 2/3



The problem wouldn't get any better-- it would only inflate scores.

People aren't going to be hitting more 2s magically-- so that point differential and efficiency is unrealized. You keep shooting the shots at the present rates, you just get more credit for hitting them no matter their type.

You want real rules changes, give the new book from Goldsberry a read. Sprawlball is pretty good.

Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124183 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:49 pm to
Great idea. Have you tried emailing Silver this idea of yours?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:49 pm to
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The values are the exact same if you change them by the same amount. Sabermetrics would want you shooting longer shots all the same vs mid range.
That’s not true. Right now the expected value of a 3 from a 40% shooter is worth 1.2 points, the same as a 60% shooter from 2.

If the we add a point to each shot, 40% long distance shot’s expected value is now 1.6 points but the 60% inside the arc shot’s expected value is 1.8 points and would have to be 53.33% before having the same expected value as the 40% shot from long distance.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 7:52 pm
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