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Question for those of you who played football in HS/college
Posted on 8/3/19 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 8/3/19 at 4:42 pm
What are some of the biggest misconceptions/myths/fallacies that casual fans have about what happens behind the scenes, regarding things like locker room chemistry, coaching, game prep, even what happens on sideline during games, etc?
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 8/3/19 at 4:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
That players care more than fans who are still trying to live their high school days vicariously through them.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Whomever would rather have coaching over talent if given a choice, has a reason to lie to you. Coaching only makes the difference if talent is equal. In HS and college, it usually isn't
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
1. That you aren't allowed to have a job if you play college football is definitely the biggest lie I always see spread
2. Another lie I always see spread is how college athletes get no money at all whatsoever outside of their scholarship and how we should at least give them a stipend. They already get a stipend and its acutally quite a bit of money. The issue is that these kids have no money management skills and blow it on stupid shite which is why you hear the heartstring tug stories about how they are broke and can't afford food.
3. That being a college athlete is basically a full time job. It is, but when detractors use this its to say college athletes have no free time at all and therefore can't work, can't study enough, can't maintain a good GPA. You have plenty of free time to study, hang out with friends, work, its just you have to be able to manage your time and days, which most college athletes are unable to do.
2. Another lie I always see spread is how college athletes get no money at all whatsoever outside of their scholarship and how we should at least give them a stipend. They already get a stipend and its acutally quite a bit of money. The issue is that these kids have no money management skills and blow it on stupid shite which is why you hear the heartstring tug stories about how they are broke and can't afford food.
3. That being a college athlete is basically a full time job. It is, but when detractors use this its to say college athletes have no free time at all and therefore can't work, can't study enough, can't maintain a good GPA. You have plenty of free time to study, hang out with friends, work, its just you have to be able to manage your time and days, which most college athletes are unable to do.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It’s not the starters that make you great it’s the scout team that makes you great
Players see the equipment guys more than anyone
Coaches don’t really care about lives of players
Players see the equipment guys more than anyone
Coaches don’t really care about lives of players
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:11 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
Coaching only makes the difference if talent is equal.
pretty fair to say.
we had a only a few players with speed and above average ability.
our defense was okay every year cause the coaches did a good job of scheming.
but when we played the teams that had more speed and athleticism we usually came up short.
imagine that.
now the HS i went to does scholarships and the talent pool is deeper.
that wasn't the case when i was there.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:12 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
Whomever would rather have coaching over talent if given a choice, has a reason to lie to you. Coaching only makes the difference if talent is equal. In HS and college, it usually isn't
Both right and wrong. Jimmys and Joes are just as important if not as important as the Xs and Os, but at the college level, you have coaches who are really good at finding projects and developing them into great talent, and then you have coaches who can bring all the raw talent in the world and do nothing with it.
At the high school level I believe that success is based on how much you can get players to care. It's easier to get affluent white suburban kids to care hence why at least in Texas, the affluent schools are the powers like Southlake, Aledo, Allen, Westlake, Travis. Therefore it takes one incredible coaching staff group and roster talent group to be able to overcome that. Duncanville and North Shore in Texas are definitely not affluent and were able to overcome only because they have great coaches who are able to get the disadvantaged kids to buy in.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:14 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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That players care more than fans who are still trying to live their high school days vicariously through them.
This times a million. Life goes on, and it goes on quickly. You don't agonize over it like fans do. At the highest levels a lot of them don't love or even care about the game. They're good at it and they get compensated-whether a paycheck or a scholarship.
Also, you would rather play on a bad team than warm the bench on a good team. You want to win, but if the guy ahead of you fricks up, it's an opportunity.
Coaches are a strange breed. A lot of them aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, so when a really smart one comes along, he dominates. They really do love the game. Its the only way they could put up with the hours, the low pay for most of them, and the constant criticism. They're like drill instructors in that all the yelling is nothing personal. Once you figure that out it makes things a lot easier.
I remember very little about the games. What I do remember are the practices and just hanging out with the guys. Some hilarious shite went on which makes me laugh to this day.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:14 pm to sms151t
quote:
It’s not the starters that make you great it’s the scout team that makes you great
Scout team is how coaches evaluate redshirt freshman and walk ons. Generally your scout team is the redshirt scholarship players
Equipment part is completely 100% accurate. That, the athletic training staff, and strength coaches are who you see 80% of the time. You don't see your coaches much except during the season and spring ball because in the offseason all they are doing is recruiting.
As far as caring about the lives of the players depends on the coach.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:18 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
At the highest levels a lot of them don't love or even care about the game.
The biggest eye opener for me at the college level was how many of my teammates just did not care. And its not like I played for a bad team either. I am guessing we had a larger % of players who did care to be as successful as we were, compared to the average team.
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:18 pm to sms151t
quote:
Coaches don’t really care about lives of players
quote:
Coaches don’t really care about lives of players
I disagree. A distant relative ran into my old HS coach years later and he asked about me and how I was doing. I was nothing special as a player and at the time I could have sworn he didn't like me very much
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:21 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:
I remember very little about the games
I couldn’t tell you about first halves of many games
I still remember numbers names sizes masks etc from all my guys
I can remember the long waits between practices having the OL hang out in my office
During the week the schedule at sms was
12-1 lunch
1-2 taping pre px stuff
2-230 ST meet OL would watch Blues Clues in my office
230-300 OL DL meet Punters Kickers watched Rocky Bullwinkle in my office
300-330 QB and RB would watch Oprah and get taped
330 Stretch
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:22 pm to Jim Rockford
I was talking college level not HS
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:36 pm to sms151t
On game day my schedule for a 7 pm home game was
12 arrive
1230 count out cokes and get keys ready
1245 230 wash my game stuff and count towels out and watch a game
300 Pregame meal (we ate on campus)
330 send out the students to start setting sidelines up
500 go to Arena and give each QB tack towel and gum
515 give coaches their tobacco or gum of choice
530 group 1 out
535 go to field first time check on phones
545 start the 90-that was minute by minute
715 kick
I’d most likely get home at 130 that night and back in office at 845 next morning
12 arrive
1230 count out cokes and get keys ready
1245 230 wash my game stuff and count towels out and watch a game
300 Pregame meal (we ate on campus)
330 send out the students to start setting sidelines up
500 go to Arena and give each QB tack towel and gum
515 give coaches their tobacco or gum of choice
530 group 1 out
535 go to field first time check on phones
545 start the 90-that was minute by minute
715 kick
I’d most likely get home at 130 that night and back in office at 845 next morning
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:38 pm to sms151t
Here’s a question I have:
If you are facing a team that is clearly superior to you, do the coaches during the week of game prep legitimately try to convince their guys that the game is winnable, or do you guys just go through game prep the same way you would for any other game, and hope for best?
If you are facing a team that is clearly superior to you, do the coaches during the week of game prep legitimately try to convince their guys that the game is winnable, or do you guys just go through game prep the same way you would for any other game, and hope for best?
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:if you have to do this, it isn't.
do the coaches during the week of game prep legitimately try to convince their guys that the game is winnable,
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:41 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
They try to prep to win like every week. You just don’t talk about the incoming arse kicking until after night meetings after px is done
Posted on 8/3/19 at 5:50 pm to sms151t
quote:
Coaches don’t really care about lives of players
As a high school coach for 20 plus years this is absolute bullshite. Maybe true on the college level but definitely not on the high school level.
This post was edited on 8/3/19 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 8/3/19 at 6:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Halftime adjustments. If it was so brilliant it would have been implemented on the sideline.
Team chemistry is real, though.
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Team chemistry is real, though.
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