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PFF says Kyler Murray is the best player in the entire draft. every bit as good as Baker

Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:42 pm
Posted by agregime1
Member since Mar 2015
1265 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:42 pm
The interesting thing to note is that PFF had Baker going number one before everyone else did because they scout differently. I know a lot of people criticize his height and don’t think he can pass, but PFF explains how untrue that is.

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Murray advanced an already incredible Oklahoma offense on his way to matching Mayfield’s 94.6 overall grade from 2017, albeit by doing so more with his legs (84.4 rushing grade) and slightly less-efficient passing (93.7 passing grade compared to Mayfield’s 94.5 in 2017 and 94.6 in 2016).



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Murray has the highest percentage of “perfect” throws (throws which are in-stride or placed away from the leverage of the coverage) in the draft class when targeting “single” coverage. He was middle-of-the-pack when it came to avoiding uncatchable passes in this scenario, but his high percentage of top-end plays certainly fall into the “NFL throws” bucket.


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The Oklahoma offense that Mayfield ran went virtually unchanged for Kyler and head coach Lincoln Reilly called from-the-pocket pass plays at the same rate he did with Mayfield (89%) and the two signal-callers threw passes from within the pocket at the same rate (86%). Mayfield averaged an amazing 11.9 yards per pass from inside the pocket in 2017, the best mark of any quarterback since PFF began charting college football. Murray would rank second all-time at 11.8 yards per pass, 1.6 yards above any other quarterback in his class.


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While Mayfield’s final college season was by far the best, he exceeded his expected rate of accurate throws (pass located on the receiver’s frame or perfectly in-stride) by 9% (first) and made uncatchable throws 5% less often than math would expect on his subset of throws (first). Murray ranked just behind him in each facet (second, 6% above, and sixth, 2% below, respectively, of 20 quarterbacks during their last college seasons). The only other quarterback season to rank in the top six in each area was Patrick Mahomes in 2016. As a thrower, Murray is second only to Mayfield and he falls into the same tier of quarterback play using our college quarterback clustering. Murray is Cluster 1, and there are very few players that are not Cluster 1 that end up as even serviceable NFL quarterbacks.



This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 6:43 pm
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:45 pm to
Baker Mayfield isn't that good in the NFL though. #22 in QB Rating.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:46 pm to
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Baker Mayfield isn't that good in the NFL though. #22 in QB Rating
Stop posting
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:46 pm to
Sounds to me like Lincoln Riley is a beast.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112199 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:47 pm to
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Sounds to me like Lincoln Riley is a beast.



#SystemQB


Let me see the screenshots
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123586 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:47 pm to
Name 22 QBs in the NFL that are better
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21582 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:49 pm to
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#22 in QB Rating.

Highest single-season passer rating* by a Browns QB since Bernie Kosar in 1987.

edit: Mayfield had the 2nd best QBR for the Browns since 2006 - that's as far back as they measure it.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:51 pm to
1 Patrick Mahomes*+ 82
2 Drew Brees* 81.9
3 Ben Roethlisberger 73
4 Mitchell Trubisky* 72.8
5 Jameis Winston 71.8
6 Andrew Luck* 71.5
7 Philip Rivers* 71.2
8 Matt Ryan 70.6
9 Tom Brady* 68.8
10 Jared Goff* 65.4
11 Russell Wilson* 65.1
12 Carson Wentz 64.9
13 Andy Dalton 64.6
14 Ryan Fitzpatrick 64.4
15 Deshaun Watson* 63
16 Kirk Cousins 60.6
17 Joe Flacco 58.7
18 Dak Prescott* 58.6
19 Cam Newton 57.4
20 Aaron Rodgers* 56.8
21 Nick Mullens 56.2
22 Baker Mayfield 55.7
23 Alex Smith 53.8
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112199 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:52 pm to
So tribisky is better than Andrew Luck?
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124213 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:56 pm to
Not sure which post is worse. Yours or the dude that compared Dame to Kobe.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123586 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:04 pm to
Lmao
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20336 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:12 pm to
The odds of a 5'10 or 5'11 QB being the "best player in the entire draft" must be astronomically low. In fact, the odds that Kyler is a starter in the NFL 3 or 4 years from now is very low.

Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12397 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:16 pm to
I think Murray was just as good if not better than Mayfield at OU. The question is will that translate into the NFL.

I think Q. Williams is the best player in the draft though.
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