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PFF says Kyler Murray is the best player in the entire draft. every bit as good as Baker
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:42 pm
The interesting thing to note is that PFF had Baker going number one before everyone else did because they scout differently. I know a lot of people criticize his height and don’t think he can pass, but PFF explains how untrue that is.
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Murray advanced an already incredible Oklahoma offense on his way to matching Mayfield’s 94.6 overall grade from 2017, albeit by doing so more with his legs (84.4 rushing grade) and slightly less-efficient passing (93.7 passing grade compared to Mayfield’s 94.5 in 2017 and 94.6 in 2016).
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Murray has the highest percentage of “perfect” throws (throws which are in-stride or placed away from the leverage of the coverage) in the draft class when targeting “single” coverage. He was middle-of-the-pack when it came to avoiding uncatchable passes in this scenario, but his high percentage of top-end plays certainly fall into the “NFL throws” bucket.
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The Oklahoma offense that Mayfield ran went virtually unchanged for Kyler and head coach Lincoln Reilly called from-the-pocket pass plays at the same rate he did with Mayfield (89%) and the two signal-callers threw passes from within the pocket at the same rate (86%). Mayfield averaged an amazing 11.9 yards per pass from inside the pocket in 2017, the best mark of any quarterback since PFF began charting college football. Murray would rank second all-time at 11.8 yards per pass, 1.6 yards above any other quarterback in his class.
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While Mayfield’s final college season was by far the best, he exceeded his expected rate of accurate throws (pass located on the receiver’s frame or perfectly in-stride) by 9% (first) and made uncatchable throws 5% less often than math would expect on his subset of throws (first). Murray ranked just behind him in each facet (second, 6% above, and sixth, 2% below, respectively, of 20 quarterbacks during their last college seasons). The only other quarterback season to rank in the top six in each area was Patrick Mahomes in 2016. As a thrower, Murray is second only to Mayfield and he falls into the same tier of quarterback play using our college quarterback clustering. Murray is Cluster 1, and there are very few players that are not Cluster 1 that end up as even serviceable NFL quarterbacks.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:45 pm to agregime1
Baker Mayfield isn't that good in the NFL though. #22 in QB Rating.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:46 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
quote:Stop posting
Baker Mayfield isn't that good in the NFL though. #22 in QB Rating
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:46 pm to agregime1
Sounds to me like Lincoln Riley is a beast.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:47 pm to castorinho
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Sounds to me like Lincoln Riley is a beast.
#SystemQB
Let me see the screenshots
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:47 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
Name 22 QBs in the NFL that are better
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:49 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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#22 in QB Rating.
Highest single-season passer rating* by a Browns QB since Bernie Kosar in 1987.
edit: Mayfield had the 2nd best QBR for the Browns since 2006 - that's as far back as they measure it.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:51 pm to dawgdayafternoon
1 Patrick Mahomes*+ 82
2 Drew Brees* 81.9
3 Ben Roethlisberger 73
4 Mitchell Trubisky* 72.8
5 Jameis Winston 71.8
6 Andrew Luck* 71.5
7 Philip Rivers* 71.2
8 Matt Ryan 70.6
9 Tom Brady* 68.8
10 Jared Goff* 65.4
11 Russell Wilson* 65.1
12 Carson Wentz 64.9
13 Andy Dalton 64.6
14 Ryan Fitzpatrick 64.4
15 Deshaun Watson* 63
16 Kirk Cousins 60.6
17 Joe Flacco 58.7
18 Dak Prescott* 58.6
19 Cam Newton 57.4
20 Aaron Rodgers* 56.8
21 Nick Mullens 56.2
22 Baker Mayfield 55.7
23 Alex Smith 53.8
2 Drew Brees* 81.9
3 Ben Roethlisberger 73
4 Mitchell Trubisky* 72.8
5 Jameis Winston 71.8
6 Andrew Luck* 71.5
7 Philip Rivers* 71.2
8 Matt Ryan 70.6
9 Tom Brady* 68.8
10 Jared Goff* 65.4
11 Russell Wilson* 65.1
12 Carson Wentz 64.9
13 Andy Dalton 64.6
14 Ryan Fitzpatrick 64.4
15 Deshaun Watson* 63
16 Kirk Cousins 60.6
17 Joe Flacco 58.7
18 Dak Prescott* 58.6
19 Cam Newton 57.4
20 Aaron Rodgers* 56.8
21 Nick Mullens 56.2
22 Baker Mayfield 55.7
23 Alex Smith 53.8
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:52 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
So tribisky is better than Andrew Luck?
Posted on 4/25/19 at 6:56 pm to tgr4ever
Not sure which post is worse. Yours or the dude that compared Dame to Kobe.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:12 pm to agregime1
The odds of a 5'10 or 5'11 QB being the "best player in the entire draft" must be astronomically low. In fact, the odds that Kyler is a starter in the NFL 3 or 4 years from now is very low.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:16 pm to agregime1
I think Murray was just as good if not better than Mayfield at OU. The question is will that translate into the NFL.
I think Q. Williams is the best player in the draft though.
I think Q. Williams is the best player in the draft though.
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