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NYT "Inside Football's Campaign to Save the Game"
Posted on 11/9/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 11/9/19 at 1:02 pm
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A New York Times review shows that football — a sport that for a century has been a fundamental part of American identity — is in decline. It's become mired in controversy over safety and must compete harder each year with other sports.
Even in states like Texas, home to "Friday Night Lights" and $70-million high school football stadiums, participation in football is falling. The trend is the same on the coasts, in the heartland, in the Upper Midwest, in the Deep South — everywhere.
One clear reason why football participation has fallen: the risk of head injury.
They're twice as common during a high school football game compared to the next closest sport, a study found. In fact, a football head injury is more likely than any other injury in any other sport.
A New York Times review shows that football — a sport that for a century has been a fundamental part of American identity — is in decline. It's become mired in controversy over safety and must compete harder each year with other sports.
Even in states like Texas, home to "Friday Night Lights" and $70-million high school football stadiums, participation in football is falling. The trend is the same on the coasts, in the heartland, in the Upper Midwest, in the Deep South — everywhere.
One clear reason why football participation has fallen: the risk of head injury.
They're twice as common during a high school football game compared to the next closest sport, a study found. In fact, a football head injury is more likely than any other injury in any other sport.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 1:05 pm
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Posted on 11/9/19 at 1:45 pm to MrLSU
Soccer is coming on in a big way, and I can see us (the US) becoming great finally.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 1:55 pm to MrLSU
I know it’s not just football, it’s all athletic sports.
Is there a decrease in the number of enrolled kids?
Is there a decrease in the number of enrolled kids?
Posted on 11/9/19 at 3:42 pm to GoldenGuy
Posted on 11/9/19 at 4:34 pm to GoldenGuy
Those are good questions, I'd like to see more data.
If they're only measuring public schools, and it looks like they are, then there are other factors involved. School size growth means a smaller percentage of kids get to participate in athletics. You also have majority-Hispanic populations at a lot of schools, with lower interest in football or basketball. And the chance to participate in athletics is part of the reason some people choose private.
If they're only measuring public schools, and it looks like they are, then there are other factors involved. School size growth means a smaller percentage of kids get to participate in athletics. You also have majority-Hispanic populations at a lot of schools, with lower interest in football or basketball. And the chance to participate in athletics is part of the reason some people choose private.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 5:01 pm to PowerTool
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You also have majority-Hispanic populations at a lot of schools, with lower interest in football or basketball
I suspect that’s a major factor.
The premise is also very seductive to left wing writers. It’s what their biases would predict, so it’s worth digging into the numbers.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 11/9/19 at 6:22 pm to baybeefeetz
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Soccer is coming on in a big way, and I can see us (the US) becoming great finally.
‘Meh, frick all that’ gif
FWIW imo NHL is the best sport in the country culturally, and to watch in person. Surprised it’s not more talked about.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 7:17 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The premise is also very seductive to left wing writers. It’s what their biases would predict, so it’s worth digging into the numbers.
They've been writing about the death of high school football at least since I was in high school, while championing soccer. I have no idea how exactly soccer became part of an agenda, other than gender inclusion and pandering to Mexicans.
I remember one of my HS teachers pasting up a newspaper article about football being bad for boys because it trains us to be more aggressive and violent
That was before all the concussion research, so the narrative hadn't turned on "safety" yet.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 8:25 pm to PowerTool
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They've been writing about the death of high school football at least since I was in high school, while championing soccer. I have no idea how exactly soccer became part of an agenda, other than gender inclusion and pandering to Mexicans.
Soccer is European, ergo superior
I really think that's as far as they've thought it through, never mind that in Europe, soccer is played by savages.
I was a Russian History major, among other things, and there's a comparable phenomena in Russia too. The self hating Russian, who views everything European as superior. Those are the Russians who toppled the Tsar, and opened the door to Lenin. And they're the very same Russians who destroyed the country in the 90s.
I think there's also a suspicion that football is conservative, and therefore suspect to the core.
And they are right about that. It does celebrate traditional conservative values, like heroism and sacrifice.
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I remember one of my HS teachers pasting up a newspaper article about football being bad for boys because it trains us to be more aggressive and violent
Posted on 11/9/19 at 8:28 pm to JohnnyRebel
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JohnnyRebel
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Ohio State Fan
That's unusual.
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WIW imo NHL is the best sport in the country culturally, and to watch in person. Surprised it’s not more talked about.
I don't think it's complicated.
It's a cold weather sport, so fewer Americans are exposed to it as children.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:03 pm to Lima Whiskey
True, I was born and raised in the south, but after moving to Colorado 5 years ago and going to Av’s games, I just think culturally as a sport, you can’t beat hockey. In the NHL it’s a fast paced, continuous game, and just as physical as football. Then they get to fight each other if it gets that heated. Then after the fight no matter who wins or loses every team in the NHL has respect for each other. Ive become fascinated with it.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:21 pm to MrLSU
Holy shite is that first chart a great example of how to present a statistic in the most biased way possible.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 9:40 pm to TigerFanatic99
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Holy shite is that first chart a great example of how to present a statistic in the most biased way possible.
Our media is beyond awful.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 10:03 pm to baybeefeetz
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Soccer is coming on in a big way, and I can see us (the US) becoming great finally.
As the kids become more liberal; and parents, teachers, and the public at large somehow see controlled aggression as a bad thing. They have embraced commie kickball more and more. Shocked.
Essentially what I mean is, the public at large has incentivized our young men to become bigger and bigger flaming fricking vaginas. To the detriment of our society.
This post was edited on 11/9/19 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 11/9/19 at 10:12 pm to GoldenGuy
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Is there a decrease in the number of enrolled kids?
No, there’s a decrease in small town and rural school enrollment.
Suburban school enrollment has exploded at the expense of small towns. Football used to be a right of passage for the majority of small town kids. As small towns have died across the US, many of those families have moved to large suburban schools districts.
The result is fewer opportunities for average athletes to compete. They are now small fish in a big pond.
Urban schools have suffered from declining participation for decades.
Posted on 11/9/19 at 10:29 pm to MrLSU
Video games
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:01 am to Ghost of Colby
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As small towns have died across the US, many of those families have moved to large suburban schools districts. The result is fewer opportunities for average athletes to compete. They are now small fish in a big pond.
Yeah, if I understand the article correctly, they're defining "participation" as the number of football players per 100 students. So this means that larger schools will automatically have a lower participation rate than smaller schools. The trend towards mega-schools with 3-4000 students means that "participation rates" will drop, even if the overall number stays the same or even grows.
So that means the claims of the article are bogus, and the rest of the article is pure editorial based on the attitudes of the "journalists" trying to tailor fit a narrative.
A real study would also look at the growth of club sports like lacrosse and rugby as an alternative to riding the bench or getting cut from the official school district-sanctioned sports. Boys are still interested in contact sports, but the mega-schools are giving that opportunity to a smaller percentage of students.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 12:03 am
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:02 am to MrLSU
Here in Monroe participation rates among the Pop Warner leagues had fallen 25% in the last decade.
And it shows on the field. In terms of constant major division I this area had fallen off a cliff.
Won't be two more years before we have another high level recruit. And he will be it.
And it shows on the field. In terms of constant major division I this area had fallen off a cliff.
Won't be two more years before we have another high level recruit. And he will be it.
Posted on 11/10/19 at 12:13 am to baybeefeetz
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Soccer is coming on in a big way, and I can see us (the US) becoming great finally
Are you from the 70's?
Been hearing that mantra for the last 50 years.
And yes, even in the 70's soccer has always been the #1 participation sport...for youths. Orange slices and pizza afterwards.
But we're talking big boys sports and even soccer is now saying, their sport is unsafe with headers and concussions at the High School, College and Pro Level.
There is no safe sport and soccer is not coming ON in a big way at H.S. and College.
But it will always remain #1 for Pee-Wees.
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