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re: Mike Leach's CFB Playoff Rant
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:22 pm to pvilleguru
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:22 pm to pvilleguru
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What's that got to do with this?
You're arguing that reducing the number of teams could close the talent gap. Those teams didn't get better by reducing the competition. They got better through better recruiting and coaching.
Relegating teams to a lower level isn't going to change who the best teams are. Coaching and good recruiting does that. Might it benefit some teams? Sure.
If you booted Lamar out of the FCS, McNeese may start grabbing more good players out of SETX, but it cheapens the accomplishment. You are only getting better in that situation because you aren't competing against anyone for those recruits.
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:27 pm to pvilleguru
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It even makes it more likely that you have more turnover of the top team in the current divisions. Much easier for a middle of the pack team to win when the middle of the pack is #20 instead of #60.
So, instead of the best or most deserving, you want to make it so that the hottest team can win a title?
That is the exact argument people use AGAINST playoffs.
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Most of these teams have never played for a title and never will. Why is it a bad thing for more people to end the season on a high note?
I get it now. You're one of those "give everyone a trophy" types, aren't you? That's the only logical explanation for this crappy argument.
If you want to play for a title, put in the work. Do the recruiting. Hire better coaches. Things shouldn't be split just so that mediocre teams have a chance to play for a title. That's just another facet of the pussification of America. You want to be the best? Do the work! Don't take your ball and go play somewhere else. Take THEIR ball!
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:29 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:LSU, Alabama, and Clemson were never that far off to begin with. They were still usually in the top half of FBS/D1A.
Those teams didn't get better by reducing the competition.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:34 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:Holy frick. Read my posts. These retarded 24 team playoffs make it easier for hot teams to win. I'm against playoffs, but an 8 team playoff in a 40 or 64 team division means that only the top 1 or 2 teams in each conference make the playoffs, which means only the very best/most deserving teams make the playoffs to begin with.
So, instead of the best or most deserving, you want to make it so that the hottest team can win a title?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:37 pm to pvilleguru
P5 Conference champs.
Anybody else not a Conference champ in the Top 10...work your way down until you get to 10 teams.
Top 2 teams get a bye week.
Done and done.
Most people can agree on a Top 10 and rarely is a Conference champ out of the Top 10.
5 Conference champs, 5 at-large.
Anybody else not a Conference champ in the Top 10...work your way down until you get to 10 teams.
Top 2 teams get a bye week.
Done and done.
Most people can agree on a Top 10 and rarely is a Conference champ out of the Top 10.
5 Conference champs, 5 at-large.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:38 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:I'm strongly against byes.
Top 2 teams get a bye week.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:47 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:Not really. I just see that half of FBS will never actually compete for a national championship because they aren't in a Power 5 conference, so what's the point in having them go through the charade. Give them something they can actually play for besides a meaningless bowl game.
You're one of those "give everyone a trophy" types, aren't you?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:48 pm to pvilleguru
Yeah...but it's a little reward for the regular season and the Top 2 teams.
But you need a goal - Top 10 or Conference champ on the field - everybody needs to be able to control their own destiny without lobbying or worrying about a committee.
If people are upset that Conference champs shouldn't get auto-bids like March Madness then you match it with 5 at-large teams..."eyeball test teams" I presume.
Rarely do people disagree about the Top 10...
But you need a goal - Top 10 or Conference champ on the field - everybody needs to be able to control their own destiny without lobbying or worrying about a committee.
If people are upset that Conference champs shouldn't get auto-bids like March Madness then you match it with 5 at-large teams..."eyeball test teams" I presume.
Rarely do people disagree about the Top 10...
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:50 pm to ChiaTiger
Mike Leach is a national treasure. Dude is so awesome.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:50 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:That's what I've been advocating for.
But you need a goal - Top 10 or Conference champ on the field
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:57 pm to pvilleguru
Yeah so it's a perfect compromise for people who say...aww man, the two best teams are in the SEC...you can't just take the conference champs...from the Big East over some 2-loss SEC team.
So you get 5 extra spots in the playoff for those teams that are independants or 2nd place in their conference.
But you absolutely have to end the charade that you can't control your own destiny except being perfect and sometimes that hasn't worked out for teams.
5 auto-bids, 5 subjective corrupt lobbyist whats good for TV committee teams.
So you get 5 extra spots in the playoff for those teams that are independants or 2nd place in their conference.
But you absolutely have to end the charade that you can't control your own destiny except being perfect and sometimes that hasn't worked out for teams.
5 auto-bids, 5 subjective corrupt lobbyist whats good for TV committee teams.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:03 pm to pvilleguru
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Holy frick. Read my posts. These retarded 24 team playoffs make it easier for hot teams to win.
Holy frick, go read up on FCS playoff history. In the last 16 years, you'll be hard pressed to find an example that fits the narrative you are pushing.
You don't understand the concept of a dynasty, do you?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:04 pm to pvilleguru
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Not really. I just see that half of FBS will never actually compete for a national championship because they aren't in a Power 5 conference, so what's the point in having them go through the charade.
Half of the Power 5 won't compete for a National Championship.
You're argument is getting weaker and weaker.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:08 pm to ChiaTiger
That man is a goddamn national treasure
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:13 pm to Jon Ham
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So far the committee is batting a thousand at picking the top 4 teams at the end of the season.
Says who? The Committee. Because the top four teams will always be the teams they rank 1-4.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:16 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:Yep. My team is currently in the midst of one.
You don't understand the concept of a dynasty, do you?
quote:That's some awful logic. Just because one of the best teams usually wins does not mean that it is less likely for a mediocre, yet hot team to win a few games. Allowing 24 teams means the 24th best team during regular season can get hot in the last month and win the championship. With an 8 team playoff, at least that 8th team had a great regular season.
Holy frick, go read up on FCS playoff history. In the last 16 years, you'll be hard pressed to find an example that fits the narrative you are pushing.
Hell, last year's FCS playoffs had a 6-5 (4-4) Illinois State team make the field.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:18 pm to TheMidasTouch
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So far the committee is batting a thousand at picking the top 4 teams at the end of the season.
Says who? The Committee. Because the top four teams will always be the teams they rank 1-4.
It's like when a recruit is a 3-Star...and then Bama or Ohio State recruit them...they suddenly become a 5-star.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:19 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:But they at least have a chance each year. In that sense, they are at least competing for it. At no point is a Sun Belt team competing for a national championship.
Half of the Power 5 won't compete for a National Championship.
You're argument is getting weaker and weaker.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:30 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:An 8-3 Youngstown State team that finished 3rd in their conference lost in the finals just last season.
In the last 16 years, you'll be hard pressed to find an example that fits the narrative you are pushing.
7-4 New Hampshire that finished 3rd in their conference made the semis in 2013.
Didn't really look further back than 2013.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:34 pm to pvilleguru
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That's some awful logic. Just because one of the best teams usually wins does not mean that it is less likely for a mediocre, yet hot team to win a few games. Allowing 24 teams means the 24th best team during regular season can get hot in the last month and win the championship. With an 8 team playoff, at least that 8th team had a great regular season.
No it's not. You keep using an argument that is in no way supported by what is actually happening each year. A lot of things can happen, but they haven't.
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But they at least have a chance each year. In that sense, they are at least competing for it. At no point is a Sun Belt team competing for a national championship.
You're an idiot if you think Rutgers, Minnesota, Illinois, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, Indiana, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Missouri, Baylor, Texas Tech, Kansas, Mississippi State, Arizona State, or Oregon State are actually competing for a NC more than Appalachian State. 19 out of 20 years, those teams aren't sniffing the playoff.
The only reason the G5 schools have no shot is because idiots like you will never give them a shot. You'd rather just relegate them to a division on their own.
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