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Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:40 pm
Posted by hollywoodhead
Member since Aug 2017
853 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:40 pm
How is this guy still considered an expert?

Been doing it for 30 years and doesn’t have a clue year in and year out.

Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:41 pm to
So your mock was correct I take it
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
42010 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:41 pm to
Do you realize how hard it is to predict the NFL Draft?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202580 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:41 pm to
A DREAM JOB if I could have it............
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112198 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:41 pm to
He created that job.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:42 pm to
He really knows Jack shite about talent though and pretends to be a scout.
Posted by hollywoodhead
Member since Aug 2017
853 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:45 pm to
No mocks. I do realize how hard it is to predict which is why I still can’t understand why ESPN gives this dude so much airtime.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:46 pm to
What a lot of people here fail to realize is that you wouldn't even know who many of these players are if not for Mel Kiper and guys like him.

You guys base your own draft projections on the work guys like Mel Kiper has done.

Some of you act like he doesn't know what he's doing, but he's the one coming up with this stuff from nothing. He's actually predicting what teams are going to do. You guys are just making changes to his predictions that he's already laid out.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 7:48 pm
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27646 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:46 pm to
well his final mock had the first 3 correct and 4 of the first 5.

im not saying hes the best, but he kind of invented it and no expert is dead on.
Posted by GoldenBoy
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Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:47 pm to
Yeah, when he clamored for Jimmy Clausen I gave up on him. I've been watching the NFL Network for draft coverage.
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5066 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 7:51 pm to
You're the same dude that watches a football game and bitches about the playcalling, when all you know is running it up the middle and throw the ball. Mel does a good job highlighting players you've never heard of or have clue about their strengths/weaknesses. Mel does a good job, better than other hosts that pull shite out their arse to give their take. Mel gives you opinions based on actual research
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
58955 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:02 pm to
quote:

He created that job.



And McShay’s job. And Mike Mayock’s job. Pretty much this entire draft spectacle can somewhat be attributed to Kiper’s contributions.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

What a lot of people here fail to realize is that you wouldn't even know who many of these players are if not for Mel Kiper and guys like him.

You guys base your own draft projections on the work guys like Mel Kiper has done.

Some of you act like he doesn't know what he's doing, but he's the one coming up with this stuff from nothing. He's actually predicting what teams are going to do. You guys are just making changes to his predictions that he's already laid out.



Umm no bitch
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

Pretty much this entire draft spectacle can somewhat be attributed to Kiper’s contributions.
yeah, nobody else would have ever thought of it.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27302 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:19 pm to
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Umm no bitch
Oh, so people here who think they know stuff are sitting at home and watching film and coming up with the draft order on their own?

No, they are surfing the web and looking at the work other people have done for them and putting names in their own order based on other people's work.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:24 pm to
You honestly think Mel kiper sets the draft boards and everyone else on earth reacts off of his? This isn't 1995. There's 100 guys on twitter who are 1000x more knowledgeable at this than kiper.

He literally knows nothing about football and only has some inside tips on occasion from teams as his go to "skill". He was pushing Josh Allen as the #1 player this year. Nobody else with a brain was doing anything close to that.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:25 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27302 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:25 pm to
Here is just one example...

Mel Kiper in his mock draft had Notre Dame OT Mike McGlinchey going 10th.

He was picked 9th in this draft.


How many of you out there even knew who the frick Mike McGlinchey was if you didn't hear about him from guys like Mel Kiper? Much less picking him go in the top 10 in the draft...
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27302 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

You honestly think Mel kiper sets the draft boards and everyone else on earth reacts off of his? This isn't 1995. There's 100 guys on twitter who are 1000x more knowledgeable at this than kiper.

He literally knows nothing about football and only has some inside tips on occasion from teams as his go to "skill". He was pushing Josh Allen as the #1 player this year. Nobody else with a brain was doing anything close to that.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying people like the OP who said he "doesn't have a clue" are full of shite.

By now there are better guys out there doing this stuff than Mel Kiper. But to act like he doesn't know anything is retarded.

If it wasn't for Mel Kiper and other guys like him, us fans wouldn't have any idea who many of these players are or where they may be drafted.


I'm basically criticizing know-it-all fans who think they know better where guys should be drafted.

I'm not saying Mel Kiper is the best out there... just that fans who think they know stuff actually are just basing what they think they know on other people's work.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:30 pm
Posted by hollywoodhead
Member since Aug 2017
853 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:30 pm to
that’s great, he can save his “analysis” until after the pick is made

If you follow CFB and or the senior bowl, combine, pro days, you’d know who these guys are.

Give Suzy Kolber Mel’s full time gig and we’d get the same results
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81261 posts
Posted on 4/26/18 at 8:30 pm to
Give him credit for pioneering this little industry but he doesn't really know anything, no. Compared to guys like Daniel Jeremiah or even mayock, he is clueless. Mel just makes shite up or is handed inside info. He's a total dummy on his own when he tries to pretend he's evaluating football players.
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