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re: Mayweather vs. Ortiz *official* fight thread

Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:33 pm to
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:33 pm to
I want to know WTF the ref was doing. He wasn't even looking at the boxers and had no clue what was going on.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:33 pm to
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There will be a re-match, because money doesn't want to fight Manny. The re-match outcome will be the same however


Hopefully Ortiz will think twice about excessive bro hugging during the match next time.
Posted by Mattdaddy311
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:34 pm to
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Oh, he wants to fight Manny, but Manny has to accept being tested the right way. He keeps sayin he doesn't want to be tested in that manner which is BS to me. If you have nothing to hide, take the damn tests already!
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:34 pm to
did the ref even ever say time in or fight..? he was looking away.. and he was the one who stopped it to deduct a point..
Posted by thewarmth
Bali
Member since May 2010
1891 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:34 pm to
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Oh, he wants to fight Manny, but Manny has to accept being tested the right way. He keeps sayin he doesn't want to be tested in that manner which is BS to me. If you have nothing to hide, take the damn tests already!
I'm sure Floyd tells it like it is!!! He's a little bitch who thinks he will have a legacy among the best. Sorry, but it ain't happening.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
78964 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:34 pm to
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Did you watch the fight tonight???


Well considering Ortiz wasn't paying attention and had his gloves by his side, anyone posting in this thread could have scored a knockout.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:34 pm to
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Oh, he wants to fight Manny, but Manny has to accept being tested the right way. He keeps sayin he doesn't want to be tested in that manner which is BS to me. If you have nothing to hide, take the damn tests already!



This is always my point. People always want to pile on Floyd for being a pussy, but Manny won't do the drug tests because he's superstitious? That sounds like a pussy to me. It doesn't negatively affect anyone else, it won't with him either.
Imo there is a 50/50 split in the fault for why this hasn't happened yet
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 11:35 pm
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42086 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:35 pm to
I would like to know what most of you would have done if you were Money? All BS aside. I know all of you are OT hardasses. But take your values about sportsmanship into the answer. Would you have taken the glove tap and hug, and waiting for Ortiz to put his guard up?
Posted by Marciano1
Marksville, LA
Member since Jun 2009
19768 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:35 pm to
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YOU ARE A frickING IDIOTIC MORON IF YO USE A FIGHT AGAINST MARQUEZ YEARS AGO TO JUDGE MANNY.

ROACH GOT A HOLD OF MANNY AND HAS TURNED HIM INTO AN ALL AROUND BOXER. IF YOU THINK MANNY IS THE SAME FIGHTER THEN THAN HE IS NOW YOU ARE frickING CLUELESS. MANNY USE TO RELY SOLELY ON HIS LEFT AND NO DEFENSE. HE HAS GAINED SPEED, GAINED POWER IN BOTH HANDS.. HE NOW HAS A RIGHT TO GO WITH HIS LEFT AND HE IS HAS DEFENSIVE MOVEMENT LIKE NEVER BEFORE.

Marquez owned Pac with counters in their first fight with Roach as his trainer, but ok...Pac was still one dimensional. In their second fight, four years later, with Roach as his trainer, Marquez owned Pac again with counters and this was in the same year that Pac KO'd Diaz and De La Hoya. Where were all of these improvements? You're an idiot. You just got OWNED.

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GET THE frick OUT WITH THAT shite AND ACTUALLY WATCH MANNY'S PROGRESSION SINCE THEN. MANNY OF TODAY WOULD KNOCK THE frick OUT OF MANNY BACK THEN. ANY WAYS MANNY FIGHTS MARQUEZ SOON ENOUGH AND YOU WILL FOR YOURSELF YOU IGNORANT frickS.

yeah Pac beat De La Hoya, Hatton, and Mosley AFTER Mayweather already beat them. Nice try. You got OWNED again.


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This fight will never happen tho. Floyd is the ultimate pussy among all pussies. No other boxer is afraid to fight Manny. No other boxer out there makes excuses. None. Keep backing this POS buffoon. I am glad I didn't spend money on this fight. There was nothing "awesome" about the fight itself. It had so much potential and to just end like that is disappointing.

No it's because it's hard to do business with Bob Arum. Ever wonder why Pac's only been fighting Top Rank fighters? There you go. OWNED a third time.




P.S. - you're a moron and I OWNED you worse than Mayweather OWNED Ortiz tonight.

Pac struggles against slick boxers who have solid jabs/counters. That's why he lost to Morales and that's why he barely escaped defeat against Marquez twice. Ever notice how Freddie Roach doesn't immediately talk trash about Mayweather and how they'll beat him by KO? It's because he knows Floyd is the best in the business and it's no walk in the park.
This post was edited on 9/17/11 at 11:41 pm
Posted by WHATDOINO
Member since Dec 2008
6901 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:35 pm to
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Posted by tubucoco
Oh, he wants to fight Manny, but Manny has to accept being tested the right way. He keeps sayin he doesn't want to be tested in that manner which is BS to me. If you have nothing to hide, take the damn tests already!






This is the TRUTH
Posted by jthib07
Mamou
Member since Sep 2006
1645 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:36 pm to
Don't give a shite
Posted by SW2SCLA
We all float down here
Member since Feb 2009
23002 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:36 pm to
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Mayweather took his first apology and then when Ortiz kept it up, Mayweather took him down. Ortiz should have been protecting himself


This
Posted by Mattdaddy311
Left of center
Member since Jan 2007
6193 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:37 pm to
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Well considering Ortiz wasn't paying attention and had his gloves by his side,


Ortiz was looking right at Floyd he got hit with the first punch
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
108097 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:37 pm to
Just saw that Mayweather made 50,000 a second tonight.
Posted by Hullabaloo
LA
Member since Sep 2009
15296 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:38 pm to
after the intial apology i would have pushed him off of me and stepped back with my hands up hinting that there is still a fight.
Posted by Joe Blow
Member since Nov 2007
2639 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:38 pm to
I'll tell you what...Floyd and 50 are going to have some good loving tonight.
Posted by Mattdaddy311
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Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:38 pm to
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Marciano1


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465765 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:38 pm to
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will spark a storm of interest and conversation for months to come.

no way

there will be controversy tomorrow during the sports reporters and then maybe some talking points monday, and it will be forgotten by next weekend
Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2942 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:38 pm to
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He was clearly dazed after that first left.


Definately effected him but he should not have put himself in position to get hit like that. I don't know what the frick Ortiz was thinking during the headbutt and everything after, it was just a strange series of shite.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
9026 posts
Posted on 9/17/11 at 11:38 pm to
Anyone that is a casual boxing fan that didn't know much about this fight (besides coming to see what the buzz in this thread is all about): I recommend you take the time to check out the four episodes of "24/7 Mayweather Vs. Ortiz" (HBO). It's a pretty good two hours of television that might just energize your interest in the sport.

Floyd Mayweather is an entertainer and a business man. His undefeated record keeps him relevant.
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