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Maybe you read about Jim Harbough throwing a fit about facilities at Purdue for visitors
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:32 pm
Here the family of an injured player explains.
It is inexcusable for this to happen.
Link to the Detroit News.
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It is inexcusable for this to happen.
Link to the Detroit News.
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:36 pm to Eurocat
Yea purdue had no x-ray machines in the visitor lockerroom so wilton speight, with 3 fractured vertebrae, was forced to travel half a mile to the university medical plaza.
It's BS.
Also, purdue has no air conditioning in the visitor locker rooms, so teams are forced to sit in their buses before the game starts.
It's BS.
Also, purdue has no air conditioning in the visitor locker rooms, so teams are forced to sit in their buses before the game starts.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:37 pm to Eurocat
That’s a huge arse article. Would you mind providing cliffs?
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:39 pm to BananaHammock
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That’s a huge arse article. Would you mind providing cliffs?
Damn, dude. It's not that long. If you're that lazy, just go ahead and mail it in.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:40 pm to Eurocat
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Maybe you read about Jim Harbough throwing a fit about facilities at Purdue for visitors
I didn't.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:40 pm to BananaHammock
The article takes all of about two minutes to read if you read slow.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:44 pm to Eurocat
This was weeks ago. Just a lil german
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:49 pm to RLDSC FAN
The article linked with the story about the player and all the details about "do you have your insurance card" was published today.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:52 pm to Eurocat
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Two days after the game, Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh spoke at length about issues that concerned him regarding Purdue: the lack of adequate cooling in the locker room, limited shower space and his disappointment in the medical facilities at Ross-Ade Stadium. Harbaugh described the table in the visitor’s locker room used for injured players as something “from the ’20s” and said he was disappointed that Speight had to be transported from the stadium for an X-ray, and also that a brace was not provided.
The University of Michigan raised Harbaugh’s concerns at the Oct. 11 meeting of Big Ten athletic directors, said UM athletic director Warde Manuel. He said other schools responded favorably to continuing the discussion, although Manuel would not describe the specific nature of the talks. The Big Ten did not respond to a request for comment.
More: UM’s Speight has ‘good chance’ to return this season
Tom Schott, Purdue’s senior associate athletics director for communications, replied to Harbaugh’s complaints by saying the university’s medical facilities were similar to those at other Big Ten schools. Schott reiterated the athletic department’s stance when contacted by The Detroit News for this story, saying: “We stick with our original statement and are looking forward to being engaged in continued conversations as they relate to setting standards for visiting teams.”
Bobby and Martha Speight do not participate in interviews about any of their sons’ athletics careers, but they felt it was important to share what transpired to help other parents arm themselves with knowledge of medical facilities and care provided at different stadiums.
“What an absolute train wreck,” Bobby Speight said of the experience.
‘It was dark, dingy, dirty’
As soon as they saw Wilton injured on the field, stadium police helped them get from their Ross-Ade Stadium seats to be with their son.
“Wilton gets hit and didn’t move for a little while, which is a parent’s worst nightmare,” Bobby Speight said. “The police took us down but were unable to open the door. Someone who appeared to be a member of the food staff realized what was going on and let us in. When that door opened, even in high school I had never been in a visiting locker room that bad. It was dark, dingy, dirty.”
There was no capability to take X-rays in the stadium. Purdue’s original statement said it made clear that “basic X-ray is available within our athletic footprint and more sophisticated capabilities are located two blocks away, similar to the arrangements at many other schools.”
Michigan and Michigan State have full X-ray capabilities at their stadiums, and they also provide police escorts if a player needs to be transported to and from the hospital. It’s not clear why Speight wasn’t transported directly to a hospital by ambulance.
Instead, Wilton sat in the front seat of a van provided by Purdue and driven by a student. The Speights, two medical trainers, a doctor and Thai Trinh, an orthopedic sports medicine fellow at Michigan, piled into a van to be transported to the student health clinic, about two blocks from the stadium.
“We take off with no escort,” Bobby Speight said. “We can’t get through because there are barricades up and (the van driver is) directing people to move them.”
They reached the Purdue University Student Health Center and headed downstairs.
“They take us in the basement,” Bobby Speight said. “It’s very dimly lit. Halfway down the hall, there’s a (radiology) technician. Wilton is in (partial) uniform and still wearing cleats, and she asks Wilton his name. The (van driver) says he needs an X-ray. (The technician) looks at me and says, ‘I need your insurance card.’”
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Wilton Speight, Michigan’s starting quarterback, has not played since being injured at Purdue on ...more
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That’s when Trinh stepped in, Speight said. NCAA bylaws require member institutions to provide student-athletes insurance for medical expenses related to athletic injuries.
The Michigan doctors requested several X-rays, and there was a short delay because of issues putting the X-ray requests in the computer system. The technician was able to get the pictures, but transmission to a satellite facility failed, making it impossible for the Michigan doctors to examine the X-rays on a high-resolution screen. They thought they could miss diagnosing even the smallest of fractures on a lower-resolution version.
Michigan’s team doctors decided Speight should be transported to a local hospital, but the Purdue officials didn’t know which hospital to send them to, Bobby Speight said.
Trinh requested a local EMS take the group. A volunteer rescue team was the only option available, as full-time EMS units were dispatched elsewhere, Speight said he was told.
“And we waited 20 minutes for the rescue squad team,” he said. “At that point, Wilton says he has tingling in his legs and is in substantial pain. The EMT riding in the back of the ambulance asks us if we need an IV or vital monitoring and Trinh replied, ‘No, but we need him stable and immobile. This is a back injury.’ We stop at a light, and the Michigan doctor asks how long is it going to take, and (the EMT) said 30 to 45 minutes on game day.
“Our doctor asked him, ‘Couldn’t we please turn on the siren and make better time?’ And (the rescue squad member) said, ‘Don’t you get smart with me. You said this is a non-vital trip.’ Our doctor said, ‘I don’t care what I told you, this boy has tingling in his legs. Turn the siren on and go.’
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The head emergency room physician said he didn’t know when they would be able to get to the scan because there were several trauma cases already waiting, but they were able to fulfill the Michigan doctors’ requests.
The Speights credit Trinh for handling much of the conversation with the physicians and facilitating transportation. He also secured something akin to a back brace to stabilize Speight, although the hospital did not have one available. An ambulance that happened to be at the stadium transported to the hospital the Kendrick Extrication Device (KED), a board used to extract injured individuals from car accidents. Speight was strapped to the board.
The Michigan doctors asked for a police escort to get back to the stadium, but were told that was not available until after the game. Purdue did provide transportation for the Michigan group to meet the team at the airport, and they all traveled together back to Ann Arbor, including Wilton.
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more efficiently and, most importantly, Speight should have been in a brace as early as possible, even before the diagnosis was made.
“In that situation, because he gets up and he walks off the field, obviously, if you know he’s got a broken vertebrae, then you put him in a collar, you put him on a backboard and take him out that way, but he gets up and walks off,” Ahlgren said. “We’d put him in a collar relatively quickly, because at that point in time, you’re just not sure, and he’s maybe saying, ‘I don’t know what’s going on. I think this hurts more than I expected it to,’ so you just immobilize in a collar.
“The CT scan (at the hospital) is going to be the key. We would leave him in the neck brace the whole time typically, and then get the CT scan to figure out then what you have to do.”
Had Speight suffered a dislocation and not received immediate treatment, he could have suffered nerve issues.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yea purdue had no x-ray machines in the visitor lockerroom so wilton speight, with 3 fractured vertebrae, was forced to travel half a mile to the university medical plaza.
That's one of those things that sounds bad but he was going to travel the half mile to the medical plaza whether he got x-rayed at the field or not. Not really that big of a deal.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:53 pm to ClientNumber9
Its a long arse article
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
I think the account of Speight is new. And it's ridiculous. I'd be livid as his parents. Purdue was not prepared to handle any sort of severe injury. Kid has 3 broken vertebraes, his legs are tingling, and Purdues response was to load him sitting up into a van driven by a student WITH NO BACK BRACE OR STABILIZER OF ANY KIND because no one thought it might be important to have those on hand at a football game.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:02 am to Eurocat
Every time Jim Harbaugh is in the news he's bitching or moaning. Sucks for Speight and I wish him well. It's a sorry arse look for a guy in his third year at a blue blood. Had a loaded a roster and blew it last year. This year they are not good and have a few losses left.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:17 am to Eurocat
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It is inexcusable for this to happen.
Watch the replay. Michigan's own medical staff walks him off the field.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:46 am to Groovie
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Every time Jim Harbaugh is in the news he's bitching or moaning. Sucks for Speight and I wish him well. It's a sorry arse look for a guy in his third year at a blue blood. Had a loaded a roster and blew it last year. This year they are not good and have a few losses left.
Thx for the input. This thread is about the handling of a spinal injury.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 3:58 am to DevinTheDude
The Speight story is borderline unacceptable. Great way for Purdue to get a law suit filed against them.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:14 am to ClampClampington
quote:HIGH SCHOOLS are required to have ambulances at games... And the Big Ten doesn't?
because no one thought it might be important to have those on hand at a football game.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:this isn't a big deal in the Midwest...
Also, purdue has no air conditioning in the visitor locker rooms, so teams are forced to sit in their buses before the game starts.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:53 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Also, purdue has no air conditioning in the visitor locker rooms, so teams are forced to sit in their buses before the game starts
That’s why it’s called a home field advantage. And Purdue needs everybone they can think of.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:20 am to ClampClampington
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Purdue was not prepared to handle any sort of severe injury.
Considering there is a hospital .5 miles away, I'd say this is inaccurate.
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