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re: Luka Doncic 17-0 in international play

Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:59 am to
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29283 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:59 am to
quote:

If not Durant, it’s Giannis.


That was my first thought....Doncic is at best the 3rd best player in the world.
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
4623 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:06 am to
You wouldn't have Luka, Giannis or Jokic in your top 10??? LOL. Two guys who have the only MVP's the past 3 years. One of which just carried his team to a Championship. And then there's Luka who is doing things NO ONE has ever done at his age. Both in the NBA and at the international level. Harden wishes he was as good as any of these three.

Hell Harden has been on Multiple super teams and has never won shite. Luka is doing just as much as him in terms of playoffs with a team full of role players.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:17 am to
Read again Bubba. And yes harden is ahead of all of them.

And please stop with the “his age” stuff. No one “his age” has been a pro basketball player for 7 years already.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7287 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:26 am to
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Durant is the best player in the world, not Doncic



Why the hell does have so many downvote? This many people believe Luka is better than Durant!?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:18 pm to
Did you just start watching basektball?




He also won 56 w Eric Gordon as his best player.

If Luka was better in the regular season he would be drawing easier first round matchups. When you are only taking your sqaud to the 6 or 7 seed you gonna have a hard time getting out rd 1. As we have seen w Luka.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

That was my first thought....Doncic is at best the 3rd best player in the world.


You need a little Hallejuluka in your life
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2346 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 12:45 pm to
I like several American born NBA players although these past two playoffs (including bubble) probably have made my favorite 3 players Luka, Giannis, and Jokic. Each are fun to watch with differing styles and refreshing. Their size all helps obviously.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:31 pm to
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has he earned a top 4 seed?
had he won a playoff series?
Are his stats the best (or even close to the best)?


Nope
Nope and
Not even close


Roster is trash. Everyone else in the rotation is a mediocre passer at best. No secondary ball handler/creator. It took one of the most talented rosters in the league 13 out of a possible 14 games to take him out in his second and third years in the league.

Oh and they would have been right there in the mix fighting for 3 and 4 seed, but they were hit by COVID as hard as any team in the league and KP missing games. It’s a miracle they got to fifth.

Luka has taken over for LeBron as the guy that no matter what you give him, he will make it work and make it better than it should be.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:36 pm to
Well guess what, roster ain’t looking much better next season. Dallas went for some
Big time FA, none wanted to go there. Maybe Kidd can make Luka and KP get along but there is no doubt it is hard to get LESS out of KP than what Luka has gotten.

quote:

Luka has taken over for LeBron as the guy that no matter what you give him, he will make it work and make it better than it should be


Lmao that is Jim harden who won at a 66 win season pace in BKN even tho durant played in about 1/4 of those games. you don’t crown someone in the nba who isn’t close to the best statistically, and hasn’t even won a playoff series. Luka will get all the credit in the world when he wins.. or even when he has better # than the players he is being compared to.
Posted by hiremikeleach
Member since Dec 2019
4612 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:48 pm to
How does boom have the worst takes consistently when it comes to basketball. I’m starting to think he doesn’t even watch it
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:55 pm to
I am Not sure what basektball you watch but in this NBA, players get credit AFTER they win. Not before. That goes for every player, ever. Luka does not get an exception.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110582 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:11 pm to
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I am Not sure what basektball you watch but in this NBA, players get credit AFTER they win. Not before. That goes for every player, ever. Luka does not get an exception.

Harden and Luka will get their due one day!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:14 pm to
There is a big difference in not ever winning a playoff series or getting a top 4 seed

And what we have seen outta Harden the last 5 years. He has lost to the eventual champ and destroyed Everyone else.

Harden floor is 55 wins and a 1st rd series win. Something luke has not done either of.

one stud can get you to 50 wins and out the first rd if he is good enough. Luke has not been that guy to date.
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:18 pm to
Dude he’s 22 years old, get the frick out of here with your dumbass basketball takes. It amazes me you bring out all these stats and actually have knowledge of the game I can tell in the way you post, but you really lose all credibility about some of the stuff you try to argue. James Harden is soooooo good, sooooo good he hasn’t won shite yet right? Am I doing it right? Luka may very well have a gold medal, and FIBA title at 22, what 11 years younger than harden? What has Harden ever won? If you make the case harden is so much better than these guys, then your 1 argument against Luka is he hasn’t won anything which is false actually, and he’s 22. How do you really feel about Harden then? I assume he can’t be better than all these guys since Harden hasn’t won shite the right? If I’m using your logic then explain to me why James GOAT harden in your opinion has never won fricking anything. Luka is ten fold over that clown. You can’t pick and choose, and you pick and choose to use things where you want it to fit your narrative. Doesn’t work like that pal.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:22 pm to
bro you can’t use “he is 22”.

We are not talking about who is the best for Their age.

when you are talking about the best it is regardless of age.

If you want to play the “if I am starting a team” I will take Luka then you can go with Luka first.

Otherwise, it is a laughable take.
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:22 pm to
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I am Not sure what basektball you watch but in this NBA, players get credit AFTER they win. Not before.


Okay so James Harden deserves no credit in his career? Using your logic. He has been to 1 NBA finals, in his entire career where he lost to Lebron James, on a team that had him Russ, and KD. Harden leaves and becomes a star player, and still 9 years later hasn’t even been back to an NBA finals. You lose all credibility with me and everyone when you spew shite out your arse like this. You throw so much shite on the wall hoping it sticks, and you’re spouting off so much that you contradict yourself time and time again.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:23 pm to


There is a difference between not even getting out of rd 1 and losing in the later Rounds to the eventual champion

Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:24 pm to
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bro you can’t use “he is 22”.


Uh yeah I can acctually. When your whole argument against him is he hasn’t won anything, which is false in basketball standards then I will say well yeah no shite he hasn’t won a ring yet, he’s only 22 years old. How does that make you feel about Harden being past the prime of his career, and still never winning anything? Actually no finals appearances without KD. See what I mean, your tales are so laughable. I’m not sure maybe give the guy some time? Giannis just won his first ring at 26. Geez, it’s almost like winning a ring takes time, takes the right pieces around you etc. Wow never would have guessed it!
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:27 pm to
hardens last 4 playoff series

Harden 29.4
Kd 26.7
Tatum 22.2

Harden 23.4
Bron 22.9
AD 21.9

Harden 23.8
CP 16.7

Harden 24.6
CP 14
KD 21.8
Steph 14.6

He has been the best player on the court in his last 4 playoff series and outplayed damn near every other top 5-10 player in the league on his way.

He has lost, to the champ. Luka lost to a team who didn’t even get out the next round theh blew a 3-1 lead to denver.
Posted by TheTexasTiger7
Dallas - Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
9387 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:28 pm to
You wanna put Luka, KD, Kyrie, Harris, Griffin, Jordan together on the same team and watch them go far? No shite James Harden is going further than Luka in the playoffs right now, he’s on a super team. The Mavericks can’t do anything outside of Luka, I know this being a huge mavs fan. Your takes are so dumb dude. Let me just start hitting you with bullshite takes to piss you off. James Harden fricking sucks! Can’t even win a ring with KD, Kyrie, Blake Griffin, Joe Harris, Deandre Jordan. James Harden is a bum, he sucks!
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