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Louisiana schools and Conf. Realignment
Posted by purplepylon on 7/23/21 at 11:03 am026
Safe to assume with Texas and OU moving to the SEC that there will be some serious shuffling going on, at least in the Big12 if it survives.
Looking at the La schools:
LSU isn't going anywhere obviously
Tulane seems to be at the lower tier of AAC. NOLA is a good market but nobody in NOLA cares about them. I feel they are lucky to be in AAC and probably stay
UL-Lafayette (the correct name) is an interesting case. Currently in the Sun Belt and they seem to be the biggest school in it. Could see them try to get into the AAC or Conf USA at least.
La Tech in Conf USA seems appropriate for them, can't see them being a draw for an upper tier conference
UL Monroe stays in Sun Belt
I doubt all the Southland La schools go anywhere.
So this is really about UL-Lafayette, can they get themselves into the AAC?
Looking at the La schools:
LSU isn't going anywhere obviously
Tulane seems to be at the lower tier of AAC. NOLA is a good market but nobody in NOLA cares about them. I feel they are lucky to be in AAC and probably stay
UL-Lafayette (the correct name) is an interesting case. Currently in the Sun Belt and they seem to be the biggest school in it. Could see them try to get into the AAC or Conf USA at least.
La Tech in Conf USA seems appropriate for them, can't see them being a draw for an upper tier conference
UL Monroe stays in Sun Belt
I doubt all the Southland La schools go anywhere.
So this is really about UL-Lafayette, can they get themselves into the AAC?
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by ProjectP2294 on 7/23/21 at 11:08 am to purplepylon
I don't think you're going to see the same kind of "market capturing" type moves from the last time around.
I think the lower tier conferences should probably look to decrease their footprint and build up drivable rivalries.
ETA: I also think that outside of the power conferences, there should probably be football only conferences. And then all the other sports can get better geographic partners to help curb travel costs.
Outside of the power conferences there aren't any brand name conferences anyway, so why worry about keeping football with the rest of the sports when no one gives a shite about your conference anyway.
I think the lower tier conferences should probably look to decrease their footprint and build up drivable rivalries.
ETA: I also think that outside of the power conferences, there should probably be football only conferences. And then all the other sports can get better geographic partners to help curb travel costs.
Outside of the power conferences there aren't any brand name conferences anyway, so why worry about keeping football with the rest of the sports when no one gives a shite about your conference anyway.
This post was edited on 7/23 at 11:11 am
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by Ralph_Wiggum on 7/23/21 at 11:11 am to purplepylon
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So this is really about UL-Lafayette, can they get themselves into the AAC?
No. Some of the Big 12 schools like Houston or SMU end up in the AAC. No need to add UL-L if Tulane is happy and stays in the AAC.
The Sunbelt is actually the best conference for UL-L and UL-M.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by GaBassFisher92 on 7/23/21 at 11:16 am to purplepylon
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UL-Lafayette (the correct name) is an interesting case. Currently in the Sun Belt and they seem to be the biggest school in it. Could see them try to get into the AAC or Conf USA at least.
I'm not too sure that the C-USA is still really an upgrade at this point, at least as far as football is concerned. C-USA certainly has the edge as far as major media markets is concerned, but the Sun Belt has been the stronger football conference recently with App State, Louisiana, Troy, and Coastal. Not to mention football-centric schools like Arkansas State and Georgia Southern.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by Jwho77 on 7/23/21 at 11:19 am to purplepylon
Hard to answer that question now. It's all a matter of what happens to the rest of the Big 12. If enough of them find homes in the remaining Power 4, it just dissolves. If not, they stay together and add members, primarily from the AAC.
If the Big 12 lives on with the remaining 8 members, I'd guess they'd wan to add Cincy, Houston and the 2 Florida schools from the AAC but maybe no UH because of petty past SWC history.
If the Big 12 lives on with the remaining 8 members, I'd guess they'd wan to add Cincy, Houston and the 2 Florida schools from the AAC but maybe no UH because of petty past SWC history.
This post was edited on 7/23 at 11:31 am
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by truthbetold on 7/23/21 at 11:22 am to purplepylon
The best thing that can happen to the G5 is to realign more sensibly geographically. There is no reason not to.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by JukeLeft on 7/23/21 at 11:23 am to purplepylon
Just depends who the AAC would want. Not sure if they would want Tech or UL-Lafayette. This trickle down could end UL-Monroe up in FCS.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by chalmetteowl on 7/23/21 at 11:29 am to Jwho77
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If not, they stay together and add members, primarily from the AAC.
so the future Big XII could be:
Iowa St.
Oklahoma St.
Kansas
Kansas St.
Texas Tech
TCU
Baylor
West Virginia
i would add
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Cincinnati
Colorado St.
Tulane
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by ragincajun03 on 7/23/21 at 11:32 am to purplepylon
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UL-Lafayette (the correct name) is an interesting case. Currently in the Sun Belt and they seem to be the biggest school in it. Could see them try to get into the AAC or Conf USA at least.
As a college football fan, I say no. Not if the Sunbelt schools are able to continue building upon the success of the past two seasons.
As a college baseball fan, the Sunbelt has fallen overall while CUSA has gotten better. I would love to see the Cajuns baseball team competing every weekend vs. CUSA teams.
Football drives the bus, though. Therefore I'd rather stay in the SBC with its visibility and ease of viewing games on ESPN's networks than having us on whatever that CBS affiliate is CUSA's on.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by ragincajun03 on 7/23/21 at 11:41 am to purplepylon
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I doubt all the Southland La schools go anywhere.
Aren't they down to something like six members in the Southland?
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re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by Baers Foot on 7/23/21 at 11:48 am to purplepylon
I think that Bryan Maggard just needs to show up to the next SEC meeting and act like we got included in the TX/OU package. So dumb it might work.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by go ta hell ole miss on 7/23/21 at 11:50 am to purplepylon
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NOLA is a good market but nobody in NOLA cares about them.
NOLA is a terrible market for college football.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by jmcwhrter on 7/23/21 at 12:30 pm to ragincajun03
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Football drives the bus, though. Therefore I'd rather stay in the SBC with its visibility and ease of viewing games on ESPN's networks than having us on whatever that CBS affiliate is CUSA's on
What good is visibility when you have to play half of your home games on Tuesday or Thursday?
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by ragincajun03 on 7/23/21 at 12:51 pm to jmcwhrter
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What good is visibility when you have to play half of your home games on Tuesday or Thursday?
That has certainly been a legit complaint from our fanbase. Looks like some more opportunities to play televised home games on Saturdays is coming, though.
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Sun Belt Commissioner Keith Gill announced during his annual State of the Conference on Thursday that the conference has extended its media rights deal with ESPN. The deal now runs through the 2030-31 academic year. The new agreement will result in a more than 50 percent increase in the number of Sun Belt football games that appear on ESPN's linear offerings (ABC, ESPN, ESPN2 and ESPNU), with 40 percent of those new opportunities being broadcast on a Saturday.
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What the effect of that will be, who knows.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by kingbob on 7/23/21 at 1:06 pm to purplepylon
Tulane has upgraded their facilities, but with such small crowds and local support, I don’t see them being a big player in conference realignment. The American is as good as they could hope for.
La Tech seems pretty much content a bigish fish in a small pond. I could maybe see them reuniting with some of their old WAC peeps in the Mountain West if some end up getting scooped up by the PAC 12, but I doubt they’re in a hurry to go anywhere.
ULM looks more likely to go back to FCS than they are to leave the sunbelt for greener pastures.
ULL seems like a climber intent on building their brand and moving up and out of the sunbelt. They’ve been trying to leapfrog Tulane and Tech to become the clearcut number 2 program in the sate as the University of Louisiana. They’re putting forth some pretty ambitious facilities upgrades and have been consistently the second best team in their conference for years now. Coastal Carolina made a big splash in the Fun Belt last year, but it’s been all ULL and App state (and occasionally Ark St) for years now. I could see ULL making a jump.
Nichols, McNeese, and Southeastern are all excellent and competitive FCS programs, and I don’t see that changing any time soon. I’ve heard rumors of SELU exploring moving up, but I doubt any serious moves are made.
ETA: I’d really like to see ULL and Tulane in the same division and conference. That could become a really fun rivalry. If La Tech was with them with some kind of trophy going to the team that sweeps both in-state rivals, it could be fun.
Call it the Rice Bowl with a minipot as the trophy
La Tech seems pretty much content a bigish fish in a small pond. I could maybe see them reuniting with some of their old WAC peeps in the Mountain West if some end up getting scooped up by the PAC 12, but I doubt they’re in a hurry to go anywhere.
ULM looks more likely to go back to FCS than they are to leave the sunbelt for greener pastures.
ULL seems like a climber intent on building their brand and moving up and out of the sunbelt. They’ve been trying to leapfrog Tulane and Tech to become the clearcut number 2 program in the sate as the University of Louisiana. They’re putting forth some pretty ambitious facilities upgrades and have been consistently the second best team in their conference for years now. Coastal Carolina made a big splash in the Fun Belt last year, but it’s been all ULL and App state (and occasionally Ark St) for years now. I could see ULL making a jump.
Nichols, McNeese, and Southeastern are all excellent and competitive FCS programs, and I don’t see that changing any time soon. I’ve heard rumors of SELU exploring moving up, but I doubt any serious moves are made.
ETA: I’d really like to see ULL and Tulane in the same division and conference. That could become a really fun rivalry. If La Tech was with them with some kind of trophy going to the team that sweeps both in-state rivals, it could be fun.
Call it the Rice Bowl with a minipot as the trophy
This post was edited on 7/23 at 1:14 pm
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by kingbob on 7/23/21 at 1:09 pm to go ta hell ole miss
NOLA is a pretty good market for CFB. It’s not as saturated as Dallas, Atlanta, or Birmingham, but it’s up there. Residents are watching football, just not Tulane.
Tulane nuked their own fan support decades ago, and seeing as their enrollment primarily consists of out of state students that return north after graduation, they don’t show much potential for growth.
Tulane nuked their own fan support decades ago, and seeing as their enrollment primarily consists of out of state students that return north after graduation, they don’t show much potential for growth.
This post was edited on 7/23 at 1:15 pm
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by SlickRickerz on 7/23/21 at 2:59 pm to purplepylon
Louisiana is going to the Big XII. Once Tejas and OU come water down the SEC, the Big XII will not die, they’ll just slot right behind the Pac12 in terms of football strength. It’ll be SEC, B1G, ACC, Pac12, Big XII. The Big XII will add Cincinnati, Louisiana, Houston, and explore Tulane, SMU, Colorado St as a possibilities. Louisiana and Houston will become a rivalry known as the Oil Bowl.
This post was edited on 7/23 at 3:02 pm
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by kingbob on 7/23/21 at 3:06 pm to SlickRickerz
Colorado St
Boise St
BYU
Kansas St
TCU
Oklahoma St
Texas Tech
Wyoming
Houston
Baylor
Tulane
ULL
Memphis
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Central Florida
I’d watch that conference
Boise St
BYU
Kansas St
TCU
Oklahoma St
Texas Tech
Wyoming
Houston
Baylor
Tulane
ULL
Memphis
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Central Florida
I’d watch that conference
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by chinese58 on 7/23/21 at 3:23 pm to purplepylon
Deck chairs on the Titanic. The best of the Power Five's will end up separating from the Group of Five's and have their own championship. After the leftovers realign, they will end up playing for a championship for their level. Hopefully they get it right, and have a real playoff like FCS teams play now.
re: Louisiana schools and Conf. RealignmentPosted by KillTheGophers on 7/23/21 at 3:34 pm to purplepylon
Was told this afternoon that CUSA media days were moved to online under the precaution of covid.
Real reason is that most of the western CUSA teams will be realigning with other conferences.
The sunbelt will align with the eastern half of CUSA.
Basically, AAC will reform with a select group of schools and Big12 leftovers.
The AAC leftovers are working with MWC and CUSA to set up regional pods with a football championship game.
The Texas / OU deal was known for a while - SEC letting everyone else get aligned before trigger is pulled.
Real reason is that most of the western CUSA teams will be realigning with other conferences.
The sunbelt will align with the eastern half of CUSA.
Basically, AAC will reform with a select group of schools and Big12 leftovers.
The AAC leftovers are working with MWC and CUSA to set up regional pods with a football championship game.
The Texas / OU deal was known for a while - SEC letting everyone else get aligned before trigger is pulled.
This post was edited on 7/23 at 3:36 pm
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