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re: Least Talented Team to Win NBA Finals

Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:10 pm to
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:10 pm to
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2011 Mavs have to be up there.


Congrats on being butthurt



Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:14 pm to
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what makes them not talented?


One star team.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:20 pm to
1978 Bullets
2004 Pistons
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:24 pm to
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Hell, neither was Clyde, really.


Wasn't on 94 team.
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:26 pm to
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what makes them not talented?



One star team.


2004 Pistons had no stars. Hell no one on that team will make the HOF either.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:27 pm to
He and I weren't referring to that team.
Posted by eumont
Member since Feb 2013
206 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:32 pm to
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Their two best players were past their primes

Since when is averaging 27 and 12 past your prime?
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:39 pm to
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Since when is averaging 27 and 12 past your prime?


Since his best years were in his 20s.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:40 pm to
Nope. His best years were 93-95, when, coincidentally, he won two championships.
Posted by eumont
Member since Feb 2013
206 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:44 pm to
Sorry but that's simply not true. Please get you facts/stats straight before spewing bs
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:46 pm to
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Please get you facts/stats straight before spewing bs



GamecockAlum never does this.
Posted by Evolve
Texas
Member since Aug 2012
3117 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:47 pm to
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The 94 Rockets


Not sure if serious.
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:49 pm to
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Nope. His best years were 93-95, when, coincidentally, he won two championships.


Yeah if you only care about PPG and not defense & rebounds..

His best season was 89-90.

His best 5 year stretch was 88-93. That was his prime. From 86-91 he was the best defensive player in the league - each season and the total stretch.
This post was edited on 5/4/13 at 11:54 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:53 pm to
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Tyson is an above average center.



defensive mvp

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Jason Terry is a career bench player. (although a very good one)



so is manu...terry averages 33 mpg for his career
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52743 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:54 pm to
Nope.

His offensive repertoire was most refined in the mid-'90s. He was a better passer and smarter overall player. He was more efficient. His PER was highest from 1992-1995 and, again, that's when he won his championships. The first time he won the championship he was the only superstar on the team.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 5/4/13 at 11:59 pm to
The 2011 Mavs have no business being mentioned in this thread. The answer is the Sonics or 94 Rockets no one else is in the discussion.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 12:03 am
Posted by Buddy Garrity
Member since Mar 2013
4224 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:03 am to
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04' Pistons for sure, prime example of team basketball there



ehh, depends if you consider defense and rebounding to be "talent." Ben n Rasheed Wallace and Tayshaun Prince were very talented in that regard. Chauncey Billups was an elite PG at the time, and RIP Hamilton was an underrated scorer. IMO, Rip, on another team, could have scored 24-25 a game at that point in his career.

my vote goes to the Mavs
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:05 am to
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His offensive repertoire was most refined in the mid-'90s


His offensive was improved but his decline in defense was more pronounced. His assists went up because of the type of players he had as a supporting cast.

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He was more efficient.


He was a marginally more efficient shooter from the field, not from the free throw line though.

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His PER was highest from 1992-1995


PER doesn't measure defensive performance.

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that's when he won his championships


That's also when Jordan was out of the league and he had his best supporting casts.

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The first time he won the championship he was the only superstar on the team.



True, but he had a damn good supporting cast in Thorpe (near All-Star level PF), Maxwell, Smith, Horry, and Cassell. His teammates stepped it up big in those Finals against the Knicks and made it hell for their guards/wings.

You're wrong about this. There's more to the game than PER.
Posted by Khal Drogo
Member since May 2013
138 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:06 am to
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Chauncey Billups was an elite PG at the time,


Depends on how you define elite.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 12:08 am to
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IMO, Rip, on another team, could have scored 24-25 a game at that point in his career.


Did you forget his Wizards days?
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