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re: Jimmy G and 49ers agree on new contract | 5 Years $137.5 million
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:18 pm to tiggerthetooth
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:18 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Huh?
wasn't worth the expense. To say osweiler was the reason for that turnaround is a bit misguided I think.
Jimmy G did that, ya nerd.
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:21 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Huh?
Jimmy G did that, ya nerd.
Fixed.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:27 pm to tiggerthetooth
Dead serious, are you drunk bro?
You're points are so bad that I'm not even sure if they make sense to me.
You used the Moss trade to show how picks are valuable. Dude has 63 targets after 2010. I'm not even sure what your point is.
And Mariota?! Oh my god
You're points are so bad that I'm not even sure if they make sense to me.
You used the Moss trade to show how picks are valuable. Dude has 63 targets after 2010. I'm not even sure what your point is.
And Mariota?! Oh my god
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:29 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Fixed
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Tim Tebow also had a good record as a starting QB in Denver.
Oh for frick's sake
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:34 pm to tiggerthetooth
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For comparison, the Pats traded Randy Moss for a 3rd round pick in 2010.
LOLZ that's supposed to count as a comparison? Randy was at the tail end of his career and run in NE at the time and had a reputation as a petulant quitter on teams, Jimmy G's young and trending upward as a viable NFL starting QB and was slated to be TB12's successor, completely different and distinct scenarios
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
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You used the Moss trade to show how picks are valuable. Dude has 63 targets after 2010. I'm not even sure what your point is.
A 2nd round pick to the Patriots is valuable.
Randy Moss had just come off a season in which he had over 1200 yards receiving and 13 touchdowns.
Hindsight is 2020, but Moss was definitely not a scrub at the time of the deal.
He went into the season disgruntled.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:41 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Randy was at the tail end of his career and run in NE at the time and had a reputation as a petulant quitter on teams,
Had back to back 1000 yard seasons with 39 receiving touchdowns in those 2 seasons. Definitely not just a throwaway.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Oh for frick's sake
Case Keenum even led the Vikings to the NFC championship.
Guy starts 7 games in his career and this board has already anointed him.
Incredible. Can't wait to bump this thread.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:48 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Case Keenum even led the Vikings to the NFC championship.
If you watch the tape of Jimmy G and Keenum this year and can't arrive at the conclusion that Jimmy G was leaps and bounds better, nobody can help you.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Had back to back 1000 yard seasons with 39 receiving touchdowns in those 2 seasons. Definitely not just a throwaway.
Before and during that season, dude kept complaining about his contract situation and intimating that that season was probably his final season with the Pats hell that was corroborated by TB12 when he noticed Moss' declining work ethic during training camp and raised that to Hoodie to which Hoodie assuaged his concerns, THEN during the Miami game that season TB12 raised it to Hoodie again when Moss was dogging it on a couple of routes and threatened never to pass to Moss again, within days Hoodie traded him to Minnesota
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:51 pm to schexyoung
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If you can't watch the tape of Jimmy G and Keenum this year and not arrive at the conclusion that Jimmy G was leaps and bounds better, nobody can help you.
Jimmy G now makes ten times the money Case Keenum makes and he hasn't even played a full season yet. If you can't see that, then nobody can help you buddy.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:52 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Jimmy G now makes ten times the money Case Keenum makes and he hasn't even played a full season yet. If you can't see that, then nobody can help you buddy.
I do see that. Now ask yourself why is Jimmy G getting paid more than Keenum ever will? What do the professional scouts and GMs see that you fail to understand?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:56 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Jimmy G now makes ten times the money Case Keenum makes and he hasn't even played a full season yet. If you can't see that, then nobody can help you buddy.
Smarter in the Vikes case to franchise Keenum then sign him to a long-term deal if he pans out. Apparently Lynch wants to pull the trigger on Jimmy G now and build for the future, I can see both sides but if you're coming off 5-0 with a putrid and pathetic roster led by Jimmy G at QB who showed out, you wanna secure him for the revival plus enable him to establish a relationship with his rising star head coach who knows a thing or two about offense.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 5:57 pm to schexyoung
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If you can't watch the tape of Jimmy G and Keenum this year and not arrive at the conclusion that Jimmy G was leaps and bounds better, nobody can help you.
1.) sample size
2.) completion percentage is near identical, Keenums ratio is much better, Jimmy had a higher YPG by about 25 yards but with on average 4-5 more attempts per game, Jimmy has a very high YPA that will in all likely Hood come down with the larger sample size. Case had a 22/7 TD-INT ratio while Jimmy had 7 TDs to 5 INTs
I think Jimmy is the better bet but to say he’s Leaps and bounds better based on last years performance is silly.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:05 pm to Cap Crunch
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The sports world has lost its goddamn mind today
It's complete insanity when you think about it. These dudes get paid life-changing money for just a few years of "work" playing a freaking game...a great game, but a game in which they talk shite 80% of the game and dance or come up with some ridiculous move to do each time they do something good. And if the absurd money is not enough, they get their asses kissed by thousands each time they do something good at work.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:05 pm to schexyoung
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I do see that. Now ask yourself why is Jimmy G getting paid more than Keenum ever will? What do the professional scouts and GMs see that you fail to understand?
Because as stated earlier in the thread, the 49ers have a lot of cap space and can afford to pay him this money. To say any team would give him this money without any other team offering him this money or any credible sources claiming he would have got this money is just complete utter rubbish.
I repeat, the 49ers were the only team to offer him this. You're talking about of your arse if you say any team would have offered him this deal.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:05 pm to wildtigercat93
If you have access to the 2018 PFF QB review please take a look.
Jimmy G
1. Ranked BEST in highest percentage of positively graded throws and just sixth lowest percentage of negative throws. Keenun average in both.
2. Led the NFL in yards per attempt of 8.76
3. Led the NFL in completion % under pressure: 62.3%
4. Led the NFL in passer rating when outside the pocket: 116.5
He did all this with one of the worst supporting casts in all of the NFL.
Jimmy G
1. Ranked BEST in highest percentage of positively graded throws and just sixth lowest percentage of negative throws. Keenun average in both.
2. Led the NFL in yards per attempt of 8.76
3. Led the NFL in completion % under pressure: 62.3%
4. Led the NFL in passer rating when outside the pocket: 116.5
He did all this with one of the worst supporting casts in all of the NFL.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:08 pm to wildtigercat93
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1.) sample size
2.) completion percentage is near identical, Keenums ratio is much better, Jimmy had a higher YPG by about 25 yards but with on average 4-5 more attempts per game, Jimmy has a very high YPA that will in all likely Hood come down with the larger sample size. Case had a 22/7 TD-INT ratio while Jimmy had 7 TDs to 5 INTs
I think Jimmy is the better bet but to say he’s Leaps and bounds better based on last years performance is silly.
And Keenum is getting paid $950,000 and he was good enough to get the Vikings to the NFC championship game.
Garappolo is literally going to be making 27x what Keenum is make this season.
No legitimate playoff team could afford to take this risk, not even close. Only a team with a lot of cap and a will to allow him to play and grow could have done this. That means only a shite team could have gone this route.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:13 pm to schexyoung
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1. Ranked BEST in highest percentage of positively graded throws and just sixth lowest percentage of negative throws. Keenun average in both.
5 games. Only 5 games.
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2. Led the NFL in yards per attempt of 8.76
7 TD 5 int. Still averaged an interception a game. Whats going to happen once teams get more film on him?
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3. Led the NFL in completion % under pressure: 62.3%
huh? Obscure stat. Only started 5 games.
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4. Led the NFL in passer rating when outside the pocket: 116.5
5 games, started 5 fricking games.
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He did all this with one of the worst supporting casts in all of the NFL.
A TON of parity in the NFL. Notice how the Jaguars and Rams went from garbage teams to playoff contenders in pretty much 1 season?
Jacksonville went from 3-13 to division champs and even knocked off the Steelers.
Rams went from 4-12 to 11-5 and division champs in one season.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 6:14 pm to tiggerthetooth
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I repeat, the 49ers were the only team to offer him this. You're talking about of your arse if you say any team would have offered him this deal.
Thing is tigger, dude was hyped up to extremes based off the 5-0 mark and was gonna be a FA, it's plausible there would've been a market for his services maybe John Elway and Denver learn under arguably the greatest and play with Emmanuel Sanders and Demaryius Thomas, teams need viable, solid quarterbacks yo
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