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re: Is Heavyweight Boxing Dead?
Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:14 pm to bobbyray21
Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:14 pm to bobbyray21
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What if we put it like this: grown men trying to get "full mount" on each other for five minutes at a time is a touch more homoerotic than maybe I prefer.
I have no problem with someone not liking the sport, but calling it trashy is dumb and calling it dangerous or barbaric is uneducated
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Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:34 pm to wildtigercat93
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calling it dangerous or barbaric is uneducated
ive seen far more heinous injuries resulting from MMA than boxing.
just not into MMA. By and large, think its trashy. Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 7/17/13 at 12:38 pm to Geauxld Finger
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ive seen far more heinous injuries resulting from MMA than boxing.
How many deaths or life shattering brain damage have you seen from MMA?
Ill take some gross looking broken bones that will heal in months over that
Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:20 pm to wildtigercat93
I can't get into MMA. Like one poster said, it'd just a couple of shirtless dudes rolling around trying to put hold son each other...like olympic wrestling without headgear.
I wish boxing would make a comeback. It's just sad that a sport with such a rich history is so irrelevant today. (Looking at you next MLB)
I wish boxing would make a comeback. It's just sad that a sport with such a rich history is so irrelevant today. (Looking at you next MLB)
Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:29 pm to wildtigercat93
I also have a problem with, how do I say this? Just about anyone can "get into it" if they want. Professional prize fighting on the other hand, there are not a lot of people walking around that can do that, nor is it something you can break in to.
I feel as though it has hit the wall of its popularity due to its unwillingness to grow beyond its stereotypical fan base of "white trash" and toolbags". I think this will cause it to eventually wane in popularity over the next 10 years, but I don't think that equates to boxing making a return.
I feel as though it has hit the wall of its popularity due to its unwillingness to grow beyond its stereotypical fan base of "white trash" and toolbags". I think this will cause it to eventually wane in popularity over the next 10 years, but I don't think that equates to boxing making a return.
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:34 pm to veerbone
I agree. Even the lower weight classes are falling off. Even after the heavyweight division fell off, it was still fun to watch fights like DE la Hoya-Trinidad and even the Barrera-Morales type fights. Hardly any good match-ups happening at all these days
Posted on 7/17/13 at 1:45 pm to wildtigercat93
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How many deaths or life shattering brain damage have you seen from MMA?
Ill take some gross looking broken bones that will heal in months over that
i don't think the litmus test for MMA is relevant due to the fact that you haven't had guys fighting for 20+ years yet. MMA hasn't been around long enough to really judge what kind of long term injuries there can be. I can say this, hearing Chuck Lydell speak leads me to believe he's got some long term issues with his career.
As far as gross spur of the moment in the ring injuries MMA>>>>Boxing
Posted on 7/17/13 at 2:55 pm to Geauxld Finger
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i don't think the litmus test for MMA is relevant due to the fact that you haven't had guys fighting for 20+ years yet. MMA hasn't been around long enough to really judge what kind of long term injuries there can be. I can say this, hearing Chuck Lydell speak leads me to believe he's got some long term issues with his career.
Liddell sounds the same now at 43 that he always has, even after a career as a striker fighting more times than your average mma-er ever will and even if they did have those issues later in life, that would put mma in the same boat as boxing...so why would one be dangerous and the other not?
shite, boxing lets the fighter get up after 10 seconds of being unconscious/rocked, then lets them fight to take more damage to the brain, MMA gives fighters chances to end the fight and overall take less punches to the head, and thats not even taking into account the difference in number of rounds and number of fights in a fighters career
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As far as gross spur of the moment in the ring injuries MMA>>>>Boxing
Obviously, but while those not so common occurrences may look gross, they heal easily. Wrestling/kickboxing etc have similar injuries as well and noone calls them dangerous
Posted on 7/17/13 at 2:59 pm to veerbone
I hope so.
Posted on 7/17/13 at 3:00 pm to Tactical1
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I also have a problem with, how do I say this? Just about anyone can "get into it" if they want. Professional prize fighting on the other hand, there are not a lot of people walking around that can do that, nor is it something you can break in to.
Well if you believe this, then youre dumber than a box of rocks. The guys at the top are some of the best athletes in the world. If you are talking about the small venue circuit then it still doesnt make sense, do you not like football because 95 percent of kids can play in high school/middle school?
Not to mention due to the number of weight classes/organizations in Boxing, it is much harder to be a champion of a Major MMA company than it is being a champion in boxing
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feel as though it has hit the wall of its popularity due to its unwillingness to grow beyond its stereotypical fan base of "white trash" and toolbags". I think this will cause it to eventually wane in popularity over the next 10 years, but I don't think that equates to boxing making a return
This is just, i dont even
Posted on 7/17/13 at 3:14 pm to wildtigercat93
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Well if you believe this, then youre dumber than a box of rocks. The guys at the top are some of the best athletes in the world. If you are talking about the small venue circuit then it still doesnt make sense, do you not like football because 95 percent of kids can play in high school/middle school?
Not to mention due to the number of weight classes/organizations in Boxing, it is much harder to be a champion of a Major MMA company than it is being a champion in boxing
What's he's saying isn't dumber than a box of rocks at all. MMA is a relatively new sport. The talent pool initially was terrible. The guys that were champions are great athletes -- and probably were great athletes -- but I watched enough "The Ultimate Fighter" to be convinced that more than half those guys weren't worth their weight in dogshit.
MMA gyms are now the rage. They're popping up left and right. And so this problem will resolve itself, but there is no question that there are guys getting into an octagon at lower level tournaments that really just aren't that good.
Posted on 7/17/13 at 3:19 pm to bobbyray21
Again why does it matter what small venues are doing? Its the equivalent of semi pro ball. Its not like the UFC is letting anyone fight on their cards
And only 1 or 2 guys usually sticks one the UFC roster for a while after The Ultimate Fighter is over so that point doesnt really matter.
ETA are you saying i cant go to a gym and train and box if i wanted to? That only elite prize fighters make it to the professional boxing level or even to the smaller venue fights?
And only 1 or 2 guys usually sticks one the UFC roster for a while after The Ultimate Fighter is over so that point doesnt really matter.
ETA are you saying i cant go to a gym and train and box if i wanted to? That only elite prize fighters make it to the professional boxing level or even to the smaller venue fights?
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 7/17/13 at 3:25 pm to wildtigercat93
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Again why does it matter what small venues are doing? Its the equivalent of semi pro ball.
When the underlying talent pool is scarce, it's reflected all the way up from the bottom to the top.
Posted on 7/17/13 at 3:31 pm to wildtigercat93
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ETA are you saying i cant go to a gym and train and box if i wanted to? That only elite prize fighters make it to the professional boxing level or even to the smaller venue fights?
You're free to go to a boxing gym all you want.
Regarding your point, the answer is that this has been true for years and years, but it is probably less so the case now, as fewer kids are going into boxing.
When you think about this in terms of talent pool, nothing I'm saying should be shocking to the conscience. You should be nodding your head up and down.
Posted on 7/17/13 at 4:53 pm to bobbyray21
Every time I see one of these MMA matches, I think 'Every one of these guys looks like he's out on parole'.
Posted on 7/17/13 at 5:04 pm to wildtigercat93
What I am saying is.
Given the opportunity, I am sure there are hundreds if not thousands of men out there that could step in the octagon and get a win off of top UFC Talent.
There are not a whole lot of people walking the planet that could put on the gloves and go twelve rounds with the likes of Mayweather or Pacquiao.
Those cats that appear on Ultimate Fighter get onto pay per view events for frick sake. Kimbo Slice makes it big on YouTube and he's fighting prime time. This is where they pluck these guys from.
Given the opportunity, I am sure there are hundreds if not thousands of men out there that could step in the octagon and get a win off of top UFC Talent.
There are not a whole lot of people walking the planet that could put on the gloves and go twelve rounds with the likes of Mayweather or Pacquiao.
Those cats that appear on Ultimate Fighter get onto pay per view events for frick sake. Kimbo Slice makes it big on YouTube and he's fighting prime time. This is where they pluck these guys from.
Posted on 7/17/13 at 5:05 pm to Tactical1
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Given the opportunity, I am sure there are hundreds if not thousands of men out there that could step in the octagon and get a win off of top UFC Talent.
Wow. Just wow.
Posted on 7/17/13 at 5:52 pm to Tactical1
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What I am saying is. Given the opportunity, I am sure there are hundreds if not thousands of men out there that could step in the octagon and get a win off of top UFC Talent. There are not a whole lot of people walking the planet that could put on the gloves and go twelve rounds with the likes of Mayweather or Pacquiao. Those cats that appear on Ultimate Fighter get onto pay per view events for frick sake. Kimbo Slice makes it big on YouTube and he's fighting prime time. This is where they pluck these guys from.
Any credibility has been lost. Add tactical to the list. Kimbo Slice??
Posted on 7/17/13 at 6:04 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I'm not making the argument that Kimbo was good, he was awful.
He became a YouTube sensation fighting losers in backyards and then overnight he was fighting prime time in MMA events. Sounds pretty low rent to me
Has there been a boxer discovered on YouTube that was immediately put on ESPN Friday Night Fights?
He became a YouTube sensation fighting losers in backyards and then overnight he was fighting prime time in MMA events. Sounds pretty low rent to me
Has there been a boxer discovered on YouTube that was immediately put on ESPN Friday Night Fights?
This post was edited on 7/17/13 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 7/17/13 at 6:39 pm to Tactical1
This gay smoothie maker knocked Kimbo Slice out with a fadeaway jab.
So Kimbo and thousands of others off the street can step in the octagon and knock out Jon Jones & Jose Aldo? Sounds like a low rent argument to me
So Kimbo and thousands of others off the street can step in the octagon and knock out Jon Jones & Jose Aldo? Sounds like a low rent argument to me
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