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re: Interesting post on the 10 biggest chokes in NCAA football
Posted on 5/17/10 at 8:13 pm to JSherm54
Posted on 5/17/10 at 8:13 pm to JSherm54
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I think these games are proof that college football is more exciting to watch than the NFL in the regular season.
NFL games continue to outdraw CF games on TV.
This post was edited on 5/17/10 at 8:18 pm
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Posted on 5/17/10 at 8:16 pm to MStreetTiger
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2. No luck for the Irish (1974)
Notre Dame boasted the No. 1 defense in the country in 1974, so any kind of lead had been a safe one. Against arch-rival USC, a 24-0 lead late in the first half all but assured a victory. But the defense would have no answer for USC’s Anthony Davis. He scored a touchdown just before the half, then returned the second half opening kickoff for a touchdown. He’d score two more times during USC’s 35-point third-quarter onslaught helping the Trojans eventually win 55-24. The last we checked, USC was still scoring in that game.
I remember watching this game like it was yesterday.
1974 game
Also, in another game against ND, AD scored six times.
This post was edited on 5/17/10 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 5/17/10 at 8:18 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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NFL games continue to outdrawn CF games on TV.
people watch all kinds of stupid shite
Posted on 5/18/10 at 9:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Totally disagree. College product is 1000x better IMO. NFL, week in and out is boring as hell. I watch the Super Bowl, about it ...anymore. Used to be an NFL superfan.
Yes, a league where the players are more talented, the coaches are better, and the method for determining a champion is better is worse than its feeder league.
Your position is akin to saying that high school football is a better product than college football.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 9:37 am to Sophandros
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Yes, a league where the players are more talented, the coaches are better, and the method for determining a champion is better is worse than its feeder league.
I disagree. The players are more talented but I don't think the coaching is "better", it's just a different skill set. And college football has far more variation of styles and much more innovation. Pro football is inherently risk averse which leads to a bland, cookie-cutter style of play. College, because of the uneven distribution of talent, has far more schematic innovations to account for this. Most tactical and strategic innovation moves up from the lower levels to the NFL, where it is smoothed out and made less different.
I love the dispirate styles of college, not to mention the pagentry and such. Better players does not mean more exciting.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 9:41 am to JSherm54
The biggest choke ever was 10-0 Arkansas blowing a national title to 7-4 LSU in the 1966 Cotton Bowl.
Nah, that wasn't a choke--Arkansas just wasn't really that good.
Nah, that wasn't a choke--Arkansas just wasn't really that good.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 10:03 am to Baloo
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I love the dispirate styles of college, not to mention the pagentry and such. Better players does not mean more exciting.
The statement that I was disputing was better PRODUCT, not "more exciting".
The best pro team can play the worst pro team, and it will still probably be a good game and the worst team has a legit shot at winning. The same can't truly be said in most CFB conferences, let alone in all of CFB.
Pro games are a better example of the sport itself.
That said, I also love the innovations found on the lower levels (recall, I'm the biggest advocate of the run and shoot on this site), but most of those are necessary to make up for a lack of talent.
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/18/10 at 10:09 am to Sophandros
CFB is more exciting for me but it will never be as big as the NFL. the NFL continues to get bigger and is by far the most powerful sports league
Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:33 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Also, in another game against ND, AD scored six times
That was the same game.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:42 am to Sophandros
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Yes, a league where the players are more talented,
Really?? You don't say..
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the coaches are better,
Proof??
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and the method for determining a champion is better is worse than its feeder league.
It is? NFL does playoff selection by divisions, an 8-8 team can go in before a 10-6 team, and thats a joke
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Your position is akin to saying that high school football is a better product than college football.
This is probably the most idiotic thing I've read on this site.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:43 am to Sophandros
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The best pro team can play the worst pro team, and it will still probably be a good game and the worst team has a legit shot at winning. The same can't truly be said in most CFB conferences, let alone in all of CFB.
Apples and Oranges due to the draft and movement of players between teams.
Posted on 5/18/10 at 7:42 pm to dukke v
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That was the same game.
No. 4 TD's in the 1974 coomeback from 24-0. Six TDs in the 1972 game was SC won something like 45 to 23. Also, in 74 and before, Heisman votes were complete prior to the end of the regular season (and before the ND game). AD finished second to Archie Griffin. AFter the 74 season, Heisman votes were done after the regular season.
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Anthony Davis was a college football All-American in 1974, and led the USC Trojans in rushing, scoring and kick return yardage for three consecutive seasons. He is long remembered for scoring 11 touchdowns in three games against Notre Dame. In a 45-23 USC win on December 2, 1972, he scored six touchdowns which set a school single game record. Two of those scores came on kickoff returns. He returned the opening kickoff 97 yards for a touchdown after Notre Dame won the coin toss and chose to kick. Later in the game after Notre Dame scored on a short pass and narrowed the Trojans' lead, he returned the following kickoff 96 yards for a touchdown. In his career as a Trojan he returned 37 kickoffs for 1,299 yards, an NCAA record 35.1 yard average. His six career kickoff returns for touchdowns are also an NCAA record as well as his kickoff return average of 42.5 yards in 1974, which is the highest kickoff return average for any single season leader ever. He was also the first Pacific-8 Conference player to rush for more than 1,000 yards in three consecutive seasons – 1,191 in 1972; 1,112 in 1973 and 1,469 in 1974. In all he carried the ball 784 times for 3,772 yards and 44 touchdowns. In his senior year (1974) he was a unanimous Consensus All-American selection. Davis was also a two time (1973-1974) first team All Pac-8 Conference selection. He was also the third multiple recipient of the W.J. Voit Memorial Trophy, awarded each year to the outstanding football player on the Pacific Coast. Davis won the Voit trophy in 1972 and 1974.
On November 30, 1974, he started an amazing rally which brought the USC Trojans back from a 24-0 second quarter deficit against #4 ranked Notre Dame to a 55-24 win. Just before halftime he scored on a 7 yard lateral pass from quarterback Pat Haden. Davis found paydirt a second time on a 102-yard kickoff return to open the second half. With only 3:25 elapsed in the third quarter Davis scored a third touchdown on a 6 yard run. Then with still 8:37 left in the same quarter, Davis added his fourth and final touchdown of the game on a 4 yard dash, dropped to his knees, went into his "endzone dance", then added a two-point conversion and the Trojans had the lead 27-24. Incredibly, Davis had scored 26 of the Trojans' first 27 points.
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 8:30 pm
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