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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi

Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:49 pm to
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Kawhi can’t even close out goat at home with no Durant. No looney, klay hurt, etc etc. cousins out there being well, himself.

Finishes game missing his last however many shots.


And Harden's had HOW MANY OPPORTUNITIES to close out goat? probably 5-6 total

And don't tell me I'm making your point, I know in this comparison in this context they're both tied at this point but Kawhi's OBVIOUSLY the infinitely better defender of the two and has already submitted a postseason for the ages with a clutch shot for the ages. Moreover, he's superior statistically in clutchness than Harden is. Sorry, Boom, facts get you again.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:50 pm to
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You gotta be more big picture my man. Dig deeper. Think Independently. you buying into all the low iq groupthink narratives.


So what's the other option? To think as a mental retard like yourself?
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 12:02 am
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:54 pm to
Kawhi got winded after three of four buckets he had to call timeout to get his wind and let GOAT back in it. Hardwn averaged 40 for over half the season. Iron man. Kawhi don’t have the durability and stamina to be on hardens level.
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2062 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:56 pm to
Aight, I’ve given my opinion which means shite and ultimately couldn’t care less who’s better than who and all of that. Y’all have fun debating a never ending topic no matter who is involved. It’s all irrelevant opinions anyway. They are all great so this discussion is fun to talk about but in the end all semantics. Enjoy the finals while they last I guess.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 11:57 pm
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 11:57 pm to
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Kawhi got winded after three of four buckets he had to call timeout to get his wind and let GOAT back in it. Hardwn averaged 40 for over half the season. Iron man. Kawhi don’t have the durability and stamina to be on hardens level.




Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:00 am to
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Hardens fg % defense is better than kawhis v these warriors. You musta missed where harden held Kevin to sub 40% fg 2x this series. Harden not playing D is the easiest way to peg someone as not keeping up and still watching video from 5 years ago.


This is all a load of horseshite to distract from the fact that KLaw's been a better defender than Harden his entire career, let me spit some facts out for the uneducated

-KLaw has been named to the NBA All-Defense team 5x in his career, Harden ZERO
-KLaw's won DPOY twice, Harden ZERO
-he's led the league in steals which doesn't happen much for taller players, guys like Steph usually attain those accolades
-Moreover EVIDENCE
LOL actual NBA PLAYERS consider PJ Tucker and fricking rookie Mikal Bridges better defenders than Harden GTFO Boom
-Harden's not even a better defender than Iggy, the 2015 Finals proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt as well as his absence from last year's Conference Finals with the difference he makes on the floor
-FG % defense doesn't mean jack shite without underlying context, a lot of those times Harden would play horrible defense and players miss uncontested layups after blowing by him and good looks mid-range, such a misconception for spin


This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 12:03 am
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:04 am to
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Kawhi got winded after three of four buckets he had to call timeout to get his wind and let GOAT back in it. Hardwn averaged 40 for over half the season. Iron man. Kawhi don’t have the durability and stamina to be on hardens level.


He has the ring, the clutch stats, and the all-around game though I lost respect for him with the bitch move he pulled in San Antonio, is what it is
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11804 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:07 am to
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Boomshockalocka

There’s no way this guy is real
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20900 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:08 am to
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And kawhi has better teammates too.


Lololololol.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:21 am to
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Theres no GM in the league that values titles that will take Harden over Kawhi right NOW. And that's important, because it's a what have you done lately league. Kawhi is better in the playoffs.


KLaw's the best player in the game NOW and IK KD's improved as a defender and there's Giannis but KLaw's done everything Jordan and Kobe did in terms of 2-way performance and if he leads the Extinct Reptiles to the first NBA championship won by an international team ever over the defending world champs, that legacy's gonna increase BAR NONE
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:24 am to
Kawhi Leonard is averaging 6.8 points in the 4Q this series vs. Warriors.

James Harden averaged 8.8 points in the 4Q of the Rockets series vs. Warriors.

One of these players is considered a closer, one is considered a choker. Both should just be considered fantastic players.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:26 am to
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I love pop. I am a big fan. I don’t like to see people discount Timmy by acting like pop can win big without him. He can’t. Timmy was the reason they won big. Not pop.


San Antonio was leading GOAT by 25 POINTS GAME 1 ON THE ROAD before ZaZa knocked Kawhi out with the illegal close out and basically ended the Spurs dynasty, not to mention didn't the Spurs defeat Harden's Rockets ON THE ROAD CLINCHING THE SERIES with Harden on the floor and KLaw out, hilarious they give Harden a freebie and he still chokes so characteristic of Beard
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18962 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:27 am to
One is also an elite defender especially in crunch time which makes him way more valuable. He is also the player who already has a ring & is on the verge of another.

Advantage: Kawhi Leonard
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 12:28 am
Posted by Alan Garner
thigh-land
Member since Oct 2009
3433 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:30 am to
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You gotta be more big picture my man.


you mean big picture like, say, getting to the finals?
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:31 am to
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Kawhi Leonard is averaging 6.8 points in the 4Q this series vs. Warriors.

James Harden averaged 8.8 points in the 4Q of the Rockets series vs. Warriors.


KLaw's team leads THE FINALS 3-2 against KD-less Warriors

Harden's team lost GAME 6 AT HOME against KD-less Warriors, not many times an opponent loses their best player and the team facing them diminishes in performance compared to the preceding performances that rendered the semis 2-2, is what it is
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:45 am to
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Kawhi Leonard is averaging 6.8 points in the 4Q this series vs. Warriors.

James Harden averaged 8.8 points in the 4Q of the Rockets series vs. Warriors.

One of these players is considered a closer, one is considered a choker. Both should just be considered fantastic players.


On how many shots? On what percentage? Were any of those points in garbage time in a game that had all but been decided?
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 12:49 am
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27871 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:48 am to
You’re wasting your time. I’m guilty of it, too. You think he doesn’t know very well that Kawhi is the superior player at this point? He’ll cherrypick you to death and step on his own argument’s toes left and right and then he’ll just throw out stupid shite like “you have to think big picture”.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81295 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:45 am to
Pretty certain that TOR wins.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:47 am to
It is cute how people ignore hardens elite playoff defense and in the next breathe ignore kawhis lack of durability. If you are only gonna look at playoffs only when judging kawhi then you also gotta judge hardwn and give him Credit for elite playoff defense. True two way player. If you are gonna look at both reg season and playoffs, well the gap widens even more. Bc kawhi ain’t play but 70 games the last two seasons. he just isn’t durable enough to carry a team through a season. Harden is a true hooper. He will slap the shite out the training staff for even thinking to mention “load management”. Can’t keep the guy off the court. You gotta respect that. His peers do. Players mvp 3 of the last 5 years.

With KD out for while we remove him from
Our rankings. With lebron, meh no playoffs no top 3 player. The top three players in nba are now:

Steph
Hardwn
Kawhi

Then lebron. Then Gina. Then,.. AD??
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:20 am to
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With KD out for while we remove him from Our rankings. With lebron, meh no playoffs no top 3 player. The top three players in nba are now: Steph Hardwn Kawhi Then lebron. Then Gina. Then,.. AD??


WBB 3 weeks ago, with Durant already hurt and Lebron and harden playing 0 games in the meantime:

"your top 5 is clearly lebron kevin steph harden kawhi"

and again

You’re still reeling from the latest harden playoff choke WBB. Get your trolls together.

Also, imagine being so fixated on trolling an internet message board that you have to argue something so stupid as James harden being a better defender than kawhi Leonard.
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