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BigBrod81
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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Even still, you are dead wrong. 


Nope. What were the scores & impacts of those points scored in that timeframe? It's easy to score buckets against the Jazz in the waning of moments of a game when the outcome has already been decided so try again.


BigBrod81
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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Imagine what hardens playoff averages would look like if he had 5 games v the lowly magic to bring those averages up.




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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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Nope. What were the scores & impacts of those points scored in that timeframe? It's easy to score buckets against the Jazz in the waning of moments of a game when the outcome has already been decided so try again.
How could I predict that you would move the goalposts even further?

Still dead wrong.

2:00 or less remaining, scoring margin within 6 points:

Kawhi: 4 for 12 for 33.3%
Harden: 3 for 8 for 37.5%


shel311
Nicholls St. Fan
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
69855 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
The top 4 in no particular order

Curry
KD
Kawhi
Lebron



Not sure why we're playing this game and acting like that's not the clear cut top 4.


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BigBrod81
LSU Fan
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Member since Sep 2010
8974 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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How could I predict that you would move the goalposts even further? 



Move the goalposts? You knew exactly what I meant from the very beginning yet you chose to cherry pick some numbers to try to make Harden appear clutch.

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2:00 or less remaining, scoring margin within 6 points: 

Kawhi: 4 for 12 for 33.3% 
Harden: 3 for 8 for 37.5%


Numbers can lie because there are aspects of Hardwin's late game collapses that are not visible in those numbers (turnovers, boneheaded mistakes, missed free throws). Yet, once again though, when it mattered the most, Harden folded in the late minutes against GSW at home once again in game 6.

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Loser: James Harden

We have to start here: Harden scored 35 points on 25 shots, hit six 3s, grabbed eight rebounds, added five assists, even swiped four steals. It was, by all accounts, a good Harden game. But he also missed five free throws. And the Rockets, you may have noticed, lost by five points.

Harden was an 88 percent free throw shooter during the regular season, and in the playoffs, he didn’t have a game in which he missed more than two free throws. Until Game 6. I don’t subscribe to the notion that a moment can be too big for a professional athlete, or believe in a “clutch gene,” but Harden isn’t helping the argument to prove otherwise.

With 2:24 left in the game, and with the Rockets having just cut the Warriors’ lead to two points, Harden had the ball and a chance to get the lead back—but he stuck out his right forearm and sent Draymond Green flying. The turnover led to a Curry layup on the ensuing possession.
Paul answered with a layup of his own, then Curry hit a 3 that hushed the crowd. Harden responded by doing this:



Harden's boneheaded inbounds turnover

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Indefensible doesn’t begin to describe it. Harden has carried the Rockets this season; with Houston performing more like a lottery team early in the season, Harden did everything to will them back into contention, most notably scoring at least 30 points 32 times in row. But that he effectively threw this game away drips with irony. Fair or not, yet another playoff flameout will open up the reigning MVP, and perhaps the Rockets’ entire offensive system, to a heavy dose of second-guessing.


LINK

Meanwhile in a game 7 at home.......



No matter how hard you try to spin it, Harden is just a loser plain & simple come crunch time in the playoffs.





ThePTExperience1969
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
I actually literally cannot believe we're actually debating Harden vs. KLaw now, it's no question KLaw's better he's the best 2-way player in the game right now and is more efficient scoring the basketball than Harden both THIS YEAR and CAREER-WISE, there's no argument to be had plus he was the MVP of the biggest Finals blowout in NBA history I mean cmon man


BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
8974 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
I think we have all come to expect these buffoonish stances from Boon but PTM seems like a decent poster which makes his addition a bit mind boggling. I understand wanting to defend his boy Harden but.......





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CelticDog
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Member since Apr 2015
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
God boom I can't believe you rose to the bait.

Kawhi is a complete player.
He's a grown man on defense.

Harden is not in the conversation.





Boomshockalocka
Houston Fan
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Member since Feb 2004
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
I’m Not a prisoner of the moment. I am big picture. there’s not a GM in the league who would take kawhi over harden. Heck Masai would trade him for harden tonight if it meant harden could play game 6 in oracle. And remember, i don’t think like a fan. I think like a GM.
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GeauxAggie972
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Member since Aug 2009
21958 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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Heck Masai would trade him for harden tonight if it meant harden could play game 6 in oracle.


The only way Harden could ever play in the Finals

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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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And remember, i don’t think like a fan. I think like a GM.



we should compile a list of the best Boom-isms

This will be on the list


Boomshockalocka
Houston Fan
Clutch City
Member since Feb 2004
48258 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
B, i don’t get caught up in disliking the other team like a fan does. In fact I don’t dislike any team or any player in the entire nba. I don’t get upset when my squad loses. I make my evals without bias. I don’t see the game through the eyes of a fan. Moreso I see it as someone who is a talent evaluator. Or just a lover of the game as whole.


WaltTeevens
Stanford Fan
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Member since Dec 2013
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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I don’t know if you are trolling someone on here, but I am by no means an NBA basketball fan. Grew up in Slidell and could give a shite about b-ball. Full disclosure, I live in Houston now and have for the last 12 or so years. If you honestly think Leonard is better than Harden, you are nuts. Harden scores like no one the game has seen in decades. Leonard is a badass, no doubt about that, but to say he is hands down better than harden is a joke. To me, at the very least they are equal, but Harden is by far more of a game changer than Kawhi.


I am by no means a doctor. In fact, I hate the field of medicine entirely..but, do you mind if I try to diagnose your condition real quick?


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hoopsgalore
Wisconsin Fan
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
6705 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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i don’t think like a fan. I think like a GM.


This, literally, made me lol. You actually believe this, too.


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htran90
New Orleans Saints Fan
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
I just realized what boom reminds me of.

The Facebook Dr. Nurse


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BigBrod81
LSU Fan
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Member since Sep 2010
8974 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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And remember, i don’t think like a fan. I think like a GM.




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slackster
Stanford Fan
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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Imagine what hardens playoff averages would look like if he had 5 games v the lowly magic to bring those averages up.


Imagine what they'd be against a team like GS.

Oh, wait, I already posted those.
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ThePTExperience1969
LSU Fan
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Member since Apr 2016
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re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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there’s not a GM in the league who would take kawhi over harden


let me see:

a 2x DPOY who's also great from an offensive perspective and possesses a championship pedigree in derailing Miami's bid to threepeat, best 2-way player in ball

OR

a volume offensive player who shoots a lower pct from both 2 and 3, who chokes in the big games, whose defensive prowess elevated to average at least despite his fans always pushing his opponent fg % as if there's causation

Think I'm gonna select the former (despite his bitch move to leave San Antonio)


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UncleFestersLegs
Columbia MD
Member since Nov 2010
3038 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
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I don’t get upset when my squad loses. I disappear for 2 weeks and make up some bull shite about being in Honduras


ftfy
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TheTideMustRoll
Alabama Fan
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Member since Dec 2009
3150 posts

re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi
Just stopping in to say that I really couldn’t give a shite less about the NBA, but these threads are some of my favorites on the entire site. Rarely do you find such a combination of ego, idiocy, and tenacity. It is a treat.


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