re: Imagine thinking Harden is better than Kawhi

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Nope. What were the scores & impacts of those points scored in that timeframe? It's easy to score buckets against the Jazz in the waning of moments of a game when the outcome has already been decided so try again.

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How could I predict that you would move the goalposts even further?

Still dead wrong.

2:00 or less remaining, scoring margin within 6 points:

Kawhi: 4 for 12 for 33.3%
Harden: 3 for 8 for 37.5%

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How could I predict that you would move the goalposts even further? 

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Move the goalposts? You knew exactly what I meant from the very beginning yet you chose to cherry pick some numbers to try to make Harden appear clutch.

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2:00 or less remaining, scoring margin within 6 points: 

Kawhi: 4 for 12 for 33.3% 
Harden: 3 for 8 for 37.5%

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Numbers can lie because there are aspects of Hardwin's late game collapses that are not visible in those numbers (turnovers, boneheaded mistakes, missed free throws). Yet, once again though, when it mattered the most, Harden folded in the late minutes against GSW at home once again in game 6.

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Loser: James Harden

We have to start here: Harden scored 35 points on 25 shots, hit six 3s, grabbed eight rebounds, added five assists, even swiped four steals. It was, by all accounts, a good Harden game. But he also missed five free throws. And the Rockets, you may have noticed, lost by five points.

Harden was an 88 percent free throw shooter during the regular season, and in the playoffs, he didn’t have a game in which he missed more than two free throws. Until Game 6. I don’t subscribe to the notion that a moment can be too big for a professional athlete, or believe in a “clutch gene,” but Harden isn’t helping the argument to prove otherwise.

With 2:24 left in the game, and with the Rockets having just cut the Warriors’ lead to two points, Harden had the ball and a chance to get the lead back—but he stuck out his right forearm and sent Draymond Green flying. The turnover led to a Curry layup on the ensuing possession. Paul answered with a layup of his own, then Curry hit a 3 that hushed the crowd. Harden responded by doing this:

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Harden's boneheaded inbounds turnover

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Indefensible doesn’t begin to describe it. Harden has carried the Rockets this season; with Houston performing more like a lottery team early in the season, Harden did everything to will them back into contention, most notably scoring at least 30 points 32 times in row. But that he effectively threw this game away drips with irony. Fair or not, yet another playoff flameout will open up the reigning MVP, and perhaps the Rockets’ entire offensive system, to a heavy dose of second-guessing.

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Meanwhile in a game 7 at home.......



No matter how hard you try to spin it, Harden is just a loser plain & simple come crunch time in the playoffs.

I think we have all come to expect these buffoonish stances from Boon but PTM seems like a decent poster which makes his addition a bit mind boggling. I understand wanting to defend his boy Harden but.......

I’m Not a prisoner of the moment. I am big picture. there’s not a GM in the league who would take kawhi over harden. Heck Masai would trade him for harden tonight if it meant harden could play game 6 in oracle. And remember, i don’t think like a fan. I think like a GM.

B, i don’t get caught up in disliking the other team like a fan does. In fact I don’t dislike any team or any player in the entire nba. I don’t get upset when my squad loses. I make my evals without bias. I don’t see the game through the eyes of a fan. Moreso I see it as someone who is a talent evaluator. Or just a lover of the game as whole.

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i don’t think like a fan. I think like a GM.

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This, literally, made me lol. You actually believe this, too.

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And remember, i don’t think like a fan. I think like a GM.

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there’s not a GM in the league who would take kawhi over harden

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let me see:

a 2x DPOY who's also great from an offensive perspective and possesses a championship pedigree in derailing Miami's bid to threepeat, best 2-way player in ball

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a volume offensive player who shoots a lower pct from both 2 and 3, who chokes in the big games, whose defensive prowess elevated to average at least despite his fans always pushing his opponent fg % as if there's causation

Think I'm gonna select the former (despite his bitch move to leave San Antonio)

Just stopping in to say that I really couldn’t give a shite less about the NBA, but these threads are some of my favorites on the entire site. Rarely do you find such a combination of ego, idiocy, and tenacity. It is a treat.