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I hope the Oakland A’s leave for Las Vegas

Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:41 am
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
1992 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:41 am
Oakland doesn’t deserve anything in that city…



This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 12:43 am
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81249 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:43 am to
They're coming to Portland, mate.

Portland Lumberjacks. Notice the Oregon outline within the P.

I'm praying for deep deep green and an old school tennis creme for the colours. Maybe a splash of light blue like Tulane and the Milwaukee Bucks have used.

Here's me good mate Tristan modeling the cap.


This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 12:49 am
Posted by SanJoseTigerFan
San Jose, CA
Member since Feb 2013
1992 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:52 am to
Oi!
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70801 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:11 am to
Move them to Philly.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:09 am to
You crack me up.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101914 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:17 am to
Good looking hat.

That's where the positive things to say stop.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17125 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:22 am to
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They're coming to Portland, mate.



I wanted to make fun of this but the Portland metro region has a larger population than Vegas.

The advantage Vegas has is being a destination/entertainment city and therefore drawing tourists to come see their favorite teams when they play in Vegas
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
34305 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:24 am to
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SirWinston

You have to be on the spectrum.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17720 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:30 am to
thats some big ta tas there buddy
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:50 am to
2/10 for the effort you put in to making this thread, but I did my own research.

I think that proposed stadium in Oakland looks way better than anything they could put in Las Vegas. New Oakland Park proposal

LINK
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As soon as those crowd counts come in this season, the refrain will be inevitable: Oakland does not support the A’s! Move the team to Las Vegas!

When you hear this — and you will hear this — bear in mind it is absolute nonsense.

I am from Montreal, and this is the same rubbish heard during the death spiral of the Expos. The formula appears the same: the owners trash the ballpark and say they need a new one; the owners get rid of your favorite players and say they cannot afford them; the fans wonder why they should pay to watch a revolving cast of players in a ballpark branded by the team as terrible; the low attendance becomes publicly mistaken as the illness rather than the symptom.

Since the end of last season, the team rooted in Oakland has cut costs by dumping star first baseman Matt Olson, star third baseman Matt Chapman, starting pitchers Chris Bassitt and Sean Manaea, and even manager Bob Melvin. The A’s slashed their player payroll by just about half — to $48 million, lowest in the majors, according to the Associated Press — and raised ticket prices.

Is this all a setup for owner John Fisher to throw his hands up at the end of this season and say, “No support, we’re outta here?”

Dave Kaval, the team president, answer to my question about the legitimacy of the stadium pursuit was:

“We wouldn’t be spending $2 million a month if we weren’t serious about staying in Oakland,” Kaval said.

Kaval has insisted repeatedly that the proposed waterfront ballpark, surrounded by a new and vibrant ballpark neighborhood and within walking distance from the heart of the city, is the cure for what ails the A’s.

Seems like the toughest part of it would be competing with the Giants. The 2 stadiums would be <10 miles apart.
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“In a two-team market, with us competing against the Giants, we need a product that’s at the same level,” Kaval said. “That is what it is going to require for two teams to be successful in this marketplace.”

The Giants started this season with a $158-million payroll, and revenues about to soar as the team completes its new and vibrant ballpark neighborhood. Even if the A’s build that waterfront home, can they truly compete with the Giants in this marketplace?

Can the A’s really plan for a payroll in the top 10 in the major leagues?

“I think the revenue from a new waterfront ballpark in Oakland can support that,” Kaval said. “One hundred percent.”


Posted by Le Coq Sportif
Lowcountry
Member since Mar 2022
88 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:58 am to
Regardless Las Vegas or Portland

Must keep the name , logo , hat and uniforms.

Only change the city name on the road uniforms. The A’s name has been in three cities, needs to stay. Funnily like the Raiders it’s a name that can travel to any city really

Edit: Hope they stay and get the waterfront park
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 9:02 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:08 am to
quote:

I am from Montreal, and this is the same rubbish heard during the death spiral of the Expos. The formula appears the same: the owners trash the ballpark and say they need a new one; the owners get rid of your favorite players and say they cannot afford them; the fans wonder why they should pay to watch a revolving cast of players in a ballpark branded by the team as terrible; the low attendance becomes publicly mistaken as the illness rather than the symptom. Since the end of last season, the team rooted in Oakland has cut costs by dumping star first baseman Matt Olson, star third baseman Matt Chapman, starting pitchers Chris Bassitt and Sean Manaea, and even manager Bob Melvin. The A’s slashed their player payroll by just about half — to $48 million, lowest in the majors, according to the Associated Press — and raised ticket prices. Is this all a setup for owner John Fisher to throw his hands up at the end of this season and say, “No support, we’re outta here?”


That’s nice and all, but the A’s had that core of players competing at a high level for 4 years in a row and still nobody came
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:15 am to
Look at those giant implants! Big tits, too...
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 9:20 am
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:26 am to
quote:

the A’s had that core of players competing at a high level for 4 years in a row and still nobody came


their avg attendance actually increased in 2018 & 2019 (up to around 20k) before covid. Which is pretty far from the 35-40k that the giants average, but it could easily get back to that level with a new stadium & better support from ownership.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:27 am to
They won 97 games both years and were 27th and 24th in MLB in attendance. I don’t have a ton of sympathy for the fan base as a whole when they don’t support a team that wins.

Their ownership is cheap without a doubt, I’m not trying to defend them either. The real crime is that they weren’t allowed to move to Silicon Valley. I think that would have changed the trajectory of the franchise
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 9:30 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94780 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:22 am to
IIRC, the As have had a very contentious relationship with Oakland and Alameda County for about 30+ years with regards to the stadium.

The fight with the area over a new stadium is hardly a new development. And unfortunately the As fricked themselves by conceding some territorial rights to the Giants in the 90s to prevent their move to St Petersburg, which are limiting their options in the greater SF area as a result.


Short term attendance gains don’t necessarily offset the long term issues between the team and the area, which is a habitual deal with teams in the metro area from the Giants to the Raiders to the Cal football team.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29100 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:04 pm to
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Seems like the toughest part of it would be competing with the Giants. The 2 stadiums would be <10 miles apart.


Not much different than the Yankees and Mets stadiums being less than 7 miles from each other.
Posted by Le Coq Sportif
Lowcountry
Member since Mar 2022
88 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 12:51 pm to
Giants have been pretty terrible to the A’s this whole process

A’s owner gave them territorial rights to San Jose area in the early 90’s to keep them in town

Giants only turned around and nuked the A’s move to San Jose 10 years ago. Petty and messed up
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 2:46 pm to
True, but I believe NY has about 3-4x the population
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166087 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 2:55 pm to
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