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How do small schools pay for sports without football?

Posted on 12/10/19 at 5:58 pm
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 5:58 pm
How do small schools that font sponsor football pay for the rest of their athletic programs? If schools like LSU can’t have profitable track or gym programs now do tiny schools with a presumably smaller following without football to subsidize them?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:08 pm to
Tuition, boosters and tax dollars
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:10 pm to
Many schools use sports programs as a net revenue generator by swindling kids to play DIII sports and pay full tuition.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65489 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:16 pm to
idiots like G the Tiger Fan who watch crap games on the Stadium network
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:59 pm to
Having competed in the sunbelt I always wondered this about UTA and UALR. I don’t know how they make it work.

shite I don’t know how we made it work in Monroe with football
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:01 pm to
Student fees built into tuition
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:09 pm to
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Having competed in the sunbelt

Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20062 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:31 pm to
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Student fees built into tuition

Schools with football still have athletic fees. However I am not sure of the size of the athletic fee for football vs non football
Posted by 417longhorn
Austin, TX
Member since Oct 2009
510 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:32 pm to
I'm pretty sure football programs lose money for the majority of schools given the high expense of huge rosters/equipment, etc.

Small school athletic departments are likely more profitable without football, although not necessarily in the black.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 7:34 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125393 posts
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:35 pm to
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idiots like G the Tiger Fan who watch crap games on the Stadium network


Says the sucker who pays for Long Horn network
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:06 pm to
Why would I pay for longhorn network when I already have the rose bowl box set?
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:52 pm to
Talons out bitch
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:11 pm to
They put on neon vests and hold buckets at busy intersections

Car washes and raffle tickets as well but less so
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
11963 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:39 am to
I graduated from a small catholic university in Houston. Several years ago, the administration started men and women’s basketball on the NAIA level. New sports wee added for women eg volkeyball, soccer, and cross county. The men added soccer, cross country, and baseball. This university was granted division 3 status this fall (NCAA).

The problem is that tuition has increased about 850 % since 1985 with enrollment of 3200 students (3000 in 1985). Faculty are being laid off and the university cares more about their image in sports. There isn’t a football program to support. How these people are expecting a profit in sports is beyond me. Need to stick with academics.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:26 am to
Most university athletic programs operate at a loss as a whole

There are roughly 20 any given year that operate at a profit. Almost the entire Pac 12 and ACC operate at a loss.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20062 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:52 am to
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The problem is that tuition has increased about 850 % since 1985 with enrollment of 3200 students (3000 in 1985). Faculty are being laid off and the university cares more about their image in sports. There isn’t a football program to support. How these people are expecting a profit in sports is beyond me. Need to stick with academics.

Are sports the primary reason? Haven’t tuition increased hundreds of % everywhere since 1985?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25871 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 7:07 am to
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Many schools use sports programs as a net revenue generator by swindling kids to play DIII sports and pay full tuition.

Where are these DIII schools that are generating revenue?

I went to one. All tickets, live streams, etc. are free of charge, at least there. Granted, money was not an issue at that particular school.

Most DIII athletes, in my experience, play because they like it, for social reasons, or because their parents want them to to create some form of time management discipline. Also, at some high academic places, that’s the only way they could get in.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 7:13 am
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2629 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 7:45 am to
With your money.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76476 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 7:54 am to
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Where are these DIII schools that are generating revenue?


$40,000+ a year tuition.

The sports aren't generating revenue, the school is, who then funnels some of those dollars back to the athletic department.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25871 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:49 am to
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$40,000+ a year tuition.

The sports aren't generating revenue, the school is, who then funnels some of those dollars back to the athletic department.

Private high schools do that too.

Very little of that tuition is funneled back into the athletic department. You ever been inside a DIII athletic facility? They're on the same level as your standard high school, usually. Often worse.

Private donations (usually from athletic alumni foundations) also pay for a large portion of their athletic programs.

DIII is basically a high school sports extension for those that want that option.
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