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re: How big of a problem do you think Burrow's underthrows will be in the NFL?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:08 am to PhillyFan1994
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:08 am to PhillyFan1994
A lot of those throws were for the back shoulder, don’t you think?
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Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:10 am to PhillyFan1994
Top Billin is garbage for what it's worth.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:10 am to PhillyFan1994
I think his intentional 'underthrows' are another plus that makes him so special. He knows when there is a good matchup that his WR will win.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:12 am to PhillyFan1994
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Once again a back shoulder throw would have been towards the sideline and therefore to Chase's BACK SHOULDER. This would have placed Chase between the ball and Diggs making it impossible for Diggs to even get to the ball without interfering.
holy shite this so just completely wrong
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Chase will ADJUST BACK TO THE BALL
because it was a back shoulder throw and is exactly what that throw was meant to do
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:13 am to ulsaint
Everyone knows he doesn’t have a rocket arm. With the receivers LSU had this year an under throw was better than an over throw. I am betting the marching orders this year were just get the ball close and give the WR a chance.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:13 am to PhillyFan1994
quote:didn't he light up so called dbu's this year..bama, fla, tex, a&m and clemson (according to the pundits) all had several 1st round db's on the path to the Sunday show.
How big of a problem do you think Burrow's underthrows will be in the NFL?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:13 am to Dawgwithnoname
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Burrow is the best QB in the draft. I'm not an LSU fan by any stretch, but I don't think this is debatable.
Never said he wasn't.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:14 am to skinny domino
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didn't he light up so called dbu's this year..bama, fla, tex, a&m and clemson (according to the pundits) all had several 1st round db's on the path to the Sunday show.
Once again, Burrow has been great this season and will be the #1 pick and deserves to be. I am just asking about one aspect of his game.
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:15 am to PhillyFan1994
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Once again, Burrow has been great this season and will be the #1 pick and deserves to be. I am just asking about one aspect of his game.
Which part is it that concerns you? The on target rate of 75% on deep throws or the 8.5/10 rating on deep balls that one of your own sources gave him?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:16 am to PhillyFan1994
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I am just asking about one aspect of his game.
everybody knows Burrow does not have an elite arm
that has always been his #1 knock
but everything else about him is so good that it just isn't that big of a deal
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:17 am to PhillyFan1994
And that aspect you are referring to is something Joe himself says he does intentionally to give his guys a chance versus making overthrows and giving them no chance.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:18 am to ATLsuTiger
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says he does intentionally to give his guys a chance versus making overthrows and giving them no chance.
Sure you definitely give your WR a chance at the ball by underthrowing as opposed to overthrowing. But you also give the DB a chance. That didn't matter in college because Burrow's WRs were just better than every DB they faced but that might not be the same in the NFL.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:19 am to PhillyFan1994
It’s a non issue when he is doing this intentionally.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:27 am to PhillyFan1994
quote:Based on what?
Apparently not.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:31 am to PhillyFan1994
quote:There has been data and links posted that show he's the best in the nation throws downfield, so you have a lot of work to do to get back in this thread you created.
It is a known fact that Burrow does have a tendency to underthrow passes
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 9:37 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:40 am to PhillyFan1994
He and Brees should compete for noodliest arm, amirite?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:44 am to PhillyFan1994
You're getting roasted, but back shoulder throws are supposed to go the outside. Qb's are taught pretty early that when you make deep throws along the sideline you don't throw it to the inside due to the possibility of it being broken up or intercepted. So Burrow's throw in the Bama game you referenced was either an inaccurate back shoulder throw or underthrown. Either way, I don't see it as a issue as it didn't happen often enough to raise red flags.
FYI, this is a text book back shoulder throw. Outside where the only player who has a chance at it is the WR:
FYI, this is a text book back shoulder throw. Outside where the only player who has a chance at it is the WR:
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:50 am to Packer
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You're getting roasted, but back shoulder throws are supposed to go the outside. Qb's are taught pretty early that when you make deep throws along the sideline you don't throw it to the inside due to the possibility of it being broken up or intercepted. So Burrow's throw in the Bama game you referenced was either an inaccurate back shoulder throw or underthrown. Either way, I don't see it as a issue as it didn't happen often enough to raise red flags.
FYI, this is a text book back shoulder throw. Outside where the only player who has a chance at it is the WR:
Finally someone who knows what a back shoulder throw is. I am NOT saying Burrow is terribly inaccurate on deep throws. I am NOT saying he throws bad balls more than he throws good ones. I am JUST asking a question based on an honest evaluation. Burrow DOES underthrow balls a little more than you would like. He does everything else wonderful. It is NOT wrong to ask this question.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:53 am to Packer
quote:What if the DB is playing to the outside?
You're getting roasted, but back shoulder throws are supposed to go the outside.
They are simply supposed to go to the BACK SHOULDER
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:54 am to PhillyFan1994
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His numbers on throws of 20+ yards are off of the charts: 33-of-56 (58.9 percent) for 1,166 yards, 18 touchdowns, and two interceptions. That's the highest completion percentage and most touchdowns on such throws, and it's the fourth-most yards, bettered only by three players with 25+ more attempts than Burrow.
Burrow ranks second nationally in completions of 10+ yards, 20+ yards, and 60+ yards, and his 10.9 yards per attempt rank third.
In terms of expected points added (EPA), Burrow has the fifth-highest figure (112.1) in passing EPA since 2004, with two games left to play. His total EPA of 112.5 is nearly five points higher than any player in the country, and it's 41.5 points higher than Ohio State's Justin Fields, who ranks fourth in the metric.
Muh underthrows!
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