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re: heat and thunder matchups

Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:40 am to
Posted by jturn17
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:40 am to
Honestly, when Harden's on the floor most of this doesn't matter. The Heat will make sure Harden is guarding the man with the ball on every play.

And the Heat will switch nearly everything on defense anyway. So primary match ups will have very little meaning.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 8:42 am to
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the Heat will switch nearly everything on defense anyway


Another adjustment Sports gets no credit for in the final 2 games of the series.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:52 am to
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So you have Durant guarding Wade in the 1st quarter of every game?


If Brooks keeps with his normal starting 5, when the heat have both Bosh and Haslem in the lineup. Then he will have to guard Lebron or Chalmers. Westbrook will guard Wade when Lebron is on the floor.

However, that will not be a common occurrence as the Thunder will go small against the Heat pretty quickly into the game. I do not see many times when the Thunder will keep both Perkins and Ibaka on the floor for long stretches of time.

I do find it funny that most people dont see Thabo Sefolosha as an elite defender in the NBA. I am sure Tony Parker and Kobe Bryant in this year's playoffs will disagree with you.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 11:53 am
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:53 am to
Thunder in 6. Durant is a monster.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Pg chalmers
sg d wade
Sf lebron
pf haslem
c bosh

needs to be

chalmers
wade
lebron
battier
bosh

to exploit OKC's lineup
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:56 am to
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I do find it funny that most people dont see Thabo Sefolosha as an elite defender in the NBA

who?
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:58 am to
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who?


Just look up shel311 and VerlanderBEAST... find it funny.

They obviously have never watched him play. He is in the discussion for best perimeter defender in the NBA.
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:59 am to
No way heat win this series
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:59 am to
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They obviously have never watched him play. He is in the discussion for best perimeter defender in the NBA.


there is a huge difference in calling him an elite defender and the hands down best perimeter defender in the NBA or best defender in this series (which is lebron)
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:59 am to
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I do find it funny that most people dont see Thabo Sefolosha as an elite defender in the NBA.


No one is saying he isn't Elite, but the Heat have 2 guys, maybe 3 if you include Battier who are as good or better than Sefolosha
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:00 pm to
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minnesotatiger


nice sig
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 12:01 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

No way heat win this series

the thunder and heat are 2 teams that run hot and cold. when both are hot/on, they look unbeatable. when both are cold, they're below average (and sometimes quite dogshit)

the thunder have some major flaws that the heat can exploit that people are not really discussing
Posted by UltimaParadox
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:05 pm to
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No one is saying he isn't Elite, but the Heat have 2 guys, maybe 3 if you include Battier who are as good or better than Sefolosha


I already stated Lebron is there.

Wade does not belong, and statistically this year was his first year to be great defensively. In the past he was not even in the discussion for an elite defender and now he does not even have to defend the other team's best player.

Battier defense lately has been over-rated and most defensive metrics point that out. He has not been great since 2006 or so.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:08 pm to
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Battier defense lately has been over-rated and most defensive metrics point that out. He has not been great since 2006 or so.

he poses a certain defensive matchup problem for certain players, and he abused durant last year for long stretches
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
27479 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:09 pm to
Well according to basketball reference's Defensive win shares

Lebron 2
Wade 29
Battier 66
Miller 187

Sefolosha 191

Posted by tigerNation09
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Member since Nov 2008
12977 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:13 pm to
I have a feeling, Battier/LeBron will be covering Durant and LeBron/Battier is going switch on whoever is the hot person.Selfosha won't shutdown lebron, he maybe a good perimeter defender but LeBron is too strong for thabo
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51339 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:13 pm to
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Sefolosha 191


Thabo doesnt play the near the minutes of the other guys so hard to make a judgement with DWS. Considering Lebron plays 3 times as many minutes as Thabo does. Even Battier played 1499 minutes this season.

Also DRtg is a much better statistic for that, however it is flawed since he does not take into account the player they are defending. Which helps players like Battier and Wade, when Lebron takes the other team's primary scorer.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 12:15 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:13 pm to
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Just look up shel311 and VerlanderBEAST... find it funny.

They obviously have never watched him play. He is in the discussion for best perimeter defender in the NBA.


Whoa there, don't change what you said, then say that I disagreed with it.

Get your story straight before assigning words to me that I never said.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465708 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:15 pm to
having thabo and perkins to guard is very underrated. that's basically a rest period for the defender
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

Lebron 2
Sefolosha 191



Are we missing some decimals somewhere?
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