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Have we talked about ESPN’s Top 150 CFB players being the worst list of all time?

Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:57 pm
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Andrew Luck is ranked as a better player (64), than both Tim Tebow (76!!!!) and Vince Young (81)

Reggie Bush is ranked 61st, and should probably be in the top 10.

Those were the worst ones that stood out to me right away. Cam Newton being 137 with arguably the best CFB season of all time was pretty hilarious as well.

Seems like they tried too hard to fight recency bias, and valued pro careers more heavily than college ones with a lot of players.

Any other terrible selections that stood out to y’all?
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 2:58 pm to
Lists are dumb and one encompassing 150 years will be dumber than most
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:04 pm to
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Andrew Luck is ranked as a better player (64), than both Tim Tebow (76!!!!) and Vince Young (81)





Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94859 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:18 pm to
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Andrew Luck is ranked as a better player (64), than both Tim Tebow (76!!!!)
How does that happen? It isnt like they are different generations
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:38 pm to
Still think the coaching ranking one having Paul fricking johnson higher than les miles is way worse
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27344 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:42 pm to
Can't believe Casanova was not included.....3x All America. Twice 1st team

Was really surprised on the exploits of Tom Harmon from Michigan.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 3:49 pm to
Jim Brown is #1 on the list but somehow he was voted behind a lineman in the 1956 heisman. Shame on those voters.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35437 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 4:13 pm to
No problem with the Top 3 but Barry Sanders should be in the Top 3.

And OJ at #25 is a joke. Should've been the first two-time Heisman winner but fricktard voters back then weren't giving out the award to Juniors.

Until Burrow, OJ had the record for the most first place votes (855) and largest margin of victory, winning by 1,750 points. (OJ still has the most 1st place votes in history.)

And speaking of 2,000 yards...Marcus Allen was the first back in history to rush for over 2,000 yards in a College Football season (2,342) and he's #40??????
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 4:24 pm to
That list looks like a Baby Boomer's wet dream. Not a single player that played college football after 1988 made the top 20 and Peyton Manning is the only post 1988 player that made the top 35.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 4:43 pm to
You and I both know why he didn’t win the Heisman that year.
Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 4:44 pm to
No DMAC
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15750 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 4:48 pm to
No McFadden... List is shite
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10170 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 5:01 pm to
Ricky Williams at 57 with 20 running backs in front of him is a joke.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 5:09 pm to
Tommie Frazier is at 97 and is arguably the greatest option QB of all tine.



Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 5:27 pm to
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Not a single player that played college football after 1988 made the top 20 and Peyton Manning is the only post 1988 player that made the top 35.


Peyton is top 35.

Danny Wuerffel who won a natty (2x appearances), 4 SEC titles, a Heisman, rewrote the SEC record book, and went 3-0 head to head against Peyton...not even ranked.

Something like 15 of the top 20 are RBs, just complete bullshite.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted by K9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Andrew Luck is ranked as a better player (64), than both Tim Tebow (76!!!!) and Vince Young (81)

Reggie Bush is ranked 61st, and should probably be in the top 10.

Those were the worst ones that stood out to me right away. Cam Newton being 137


Holy frick that is so bad. I maybe get punishing Newton for only one year, but then they don't reward Tebow for 4 years? 67 for Tebow??? Wtf. He broke the #2 player's rushing TD record as a fugging QB.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:16 pm to
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You and I both know why he didn’t win the Heisman that year.



Paul Hornung won, he wasn't a lineman.

wafer boy bias
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12376 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:47 pm to
They were dumb to make it a ranking, especially with something so subjective and spread out over so long a period.

They should’ve just done a top 10 and then had 11-150 just be a non-ranked group of players.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:48 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:55 pm to
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Paul Hornung won, he wasn't a lineman.



Dude had 3/13 td/int on a 2-8 team. Wtf? Tell me it wasn’t a popularity contest back then.

Btw, Jim Brown was 5th in voting that year.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15331 posts
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:58 pm to
The top 11 was a bunch of WWII vets. It’s the same thing with the NFL lists. The people who make these have the opposite of recency bias.
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