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re: Harden - Giannis beef

Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:11 pm to
Never claimed I could beat his arse. The original point from my first post was a joke that Harden is soft and plays basketball soft. Jesus, I can't believe I'm having to comprehend this for you.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 2:13 pm
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

The current NBA is like the bachelor with the amount of childish drama they have. Sad to see what it’s become.



it's because the average nba fan is like 16 or 17 and looks like trystan st cyr

I love basketball and still hoop here in nola ~3 times a week, but every year I watch less and less nba ball because the shite is just gay as hell now


"omg yo deadass the BEEF is real son THIS LEAGUe man this LEAGUE yo, deadass fr fr"

frickin nerds
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Never claimed I could beat his arse

Oh my bad. Now, just so we are clear, you admit that you would get your arse beat by, in your own words
quote:

a baby back bitch

Just wanna set the record straight
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:20 pm to
Soft

Literally the best post defender in the league. Bullying around players who outweigh him consistently.
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:22 pm to
boom I like you and I agree that calling harden soft is retarded, but harden isn't even the best post defender on his own team

although

A: he is very good

and

B: almost no one is as good as pj tucker
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:25 pm to
nah harden allows the fewest points per post up possession of any player in the league. And he has done it for the last few years.
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:25 pm to
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nah harden allows the fewest points per post up possession of any player in the league.


he's also not guarding post-up offensive players nearly as often as the big guys are, which probably helps his #s

Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:27 pm to
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nah harden allows the fewest points per post up possession of any player in the league. And he has done it for the last few years

Yes but we don't put him on their best post players. PJ always has the tougher assignment and is the better defender let's not get carried away. Harden is really good in the post tho.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:27 pm to
That is wrong. He defends more post up than any other player In The league. Houston welcomes harden to switch into a big bc it baits the opponent into thinking their big can score on him. They can’t.

Opp shoots 27.8% against james when they post him up.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:33 pm to
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He defends more post up than any other player In The league.


says here its 6-most when sorted by frequency

LINK

when ranked by points per possession, he is 16th best (which is still objectively amazing, considering his size and offensive workload)

LINK


also RIP naz reid, look what they did to my boy :(

LINK
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:35 pm to
That is frequency of possessions. Harden plays more minutes than everyone. So his % will be lower. Post up possessions defended per game, he is now 3rd. of player who defend more than .5 post ups a game, literally none of them have a better fg% allowed or points per possession. Harden defend 1.7 post up possessions per game.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
40227 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

He defends more post up than any other player In The league.


quote:

Post up possessions defended per game, he is now 3rd.

Hmmm
Posted by HT713
Galations 4:16
Member since Jan 2011
10028 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:39 pm to
sure and maybe I'm wonky but theoretically don't you care much more about percentage of post ups defended well than you do about how many post ups per game he is defending? i.e.

also funny to look up how the frequency of post-ups in general has gone down every year they have kept that stat lol hakeem/ewing/malone/etc must be weeping
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:41 pm to
B don’t look at the numbers every day. He is 99 percentile regardless. And no one is really close to him on a per possession basis unless you looking at guys who defend 3x less possessions.

You taking a guy shooting 9 3s at 40% all day over someone shooting 3 at 42%. Same logic applies here. He is the leagues dominant post defender and scorer.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 2:44 pm to
Oh also top 10 in steals and deflections. Top 5 in loose balls recovered. #1 among guards in blocked shots.

Easily the best “two way player” in the league today.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 3:37 pm to
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ESPN just posted an interview James Harden did with Rachel Nichols. Thread of Harden's comments: About Giannis: "I wish I could be 7 feet and run and just dunk, like that takes no skill at all, I gotta actually learn how to play basketball, how to have skill"


wait, flopping and shooting a shite load of free throws is a skill???
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59874 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 3:58 pm to
James Harden vs Giannis Antetokounmpo defensively:

Blocks:
-Giannis (57)
-Harden (52)

Steals:
-Harden (91)
-Giannis (55)

Deflections:
-Harden (153)
-Giannis (113)

Loose balls recovered:
-Harden (85)
-Giannis (77)

Charges drawn:
-Harden (5)
-Giannis (0)
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7263 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Harden is on my “dark alley” team. He is def one of the last Guys you wanna come across in a dark alley.


Dude they are basketball players. There is no dark alley team. He’s not even on the list of guys you dont want to “come across in a dark alley”. Shooty hoopers. Not fighters.
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6036 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 4:57 pm to
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There is no dark alley team.

Eh I can come up with 5 NBA players that no one wants to frick with. Harden's not on the list but I wouldn't doubt he could fight. 1. David West 2. DeMarcus Cousins 3. Marcin Gortat 4. James Johnson 5. Steven Adams
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