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Fact or Fiction? tNCAA Tournament crowns undeserving teams as champions
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:53 pm
Answer these questions using the time frame of since 2000:
How many times has an undeserving team won the national title? How many times has the tournament champion not had a legitimate argument that they were the best team in the country?
You always hear that it's a terrible way to crown a champion? Is it? Why does it work so well then?
How many times has an undeserving team won the national title? How many times has the tournament champion not had a legitimate argument that they were the best team in the country?
You always hear that it's a terrible way to crown a champion? Is it? Why does it work so well then?
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:55 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
2014 Uconn was a product of a bad year in college hoops.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:55 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
CBB has the best postseason of any sport. All CBB champions are deserving
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:56 pm to CapperVin
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CBB has the best postseason of any sport. All CBB champions are deserving
Completely disagree. Its the most entertaining postseason, but its a bad way to determine a champion
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:58 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
I think the problem is you get these random teams that get hot for 4 games and make the final 4 that have zero business playing for a national title. Syracuse from a few years ago comes to mind. And like it or not, Loyola Chicago this year is one of those teams.
Then you have that absolute abortion when a 7 seed uconn beat 8 seed Kentucky for the national title.
Yes, the tournament gets it right almost all the time, but it’s still a poor way to crown a champion after a 30 game regular season.
The main issue is that the top few teams get no special privileges- no bye, no home court games, etc. basically no reward for a great season.
Then you have that absolute abortion when a 7 seed uconn beat 8 seed Kentucky for the national title.
Yes, the tournament gets it right almost all the time, but it’s still a poor way to crown a champion after a 30 game regular season.
The main issue is that the top few teams get no special privileges- no bye, no home court games, etc. basically no reward for a great season.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:58 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Are you trying to say villanova wasn't deserving? Because you're wrong if so
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:59 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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How many times has an undeserving team won the national title?
Never.
you have to win a bunch of games.
CFB crowns underserving teams who just have to win one or two games at the end and get voted in based on what?
Bullshite?
The fuq eye test...made up nonsense politics and regional bias.
CFB crowns a champion as stupid as they crown the Heisman.
That's why it will always be mythical.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:59 pm to PrideofTheSEC
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Are you trying to say villanova wasn't deserving? Because you're wrong if so
Reading comprehension. Poor.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 10:59 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
The champion is by definition the best team on the night they play. They may not be the most talented, but titles aren't won on talent alone. They have to run a two week gauntlet with no margin for error. Hard to argue with a team that makes it through undefeated.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:00 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Fact but this is not a good time to make this thread. Villanova is one of the best and most deserving champions to come along in a long time.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:01 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
The ncaa tournament is great but not best way to determine champ. Also makes the regular season worthless since every half arse team gets in.
NBA and MLB probably the best at it
NBA and MLB probably the best at it
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:03 pm to tonyperkis
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2014 Uconn
the only team since 2000 that really wasn't the best team in the country. I wouldn't take away their trophy, but they flat out weren't the best. 17/18 isn't bad. I don't see the trend changing any time soon.
The NFL has teams win the title that aren't the best, so does MLB and NHL. It doesn't really happen in the NBA.
But all of those leagues have champions who likely aren't the best teams in their leagues win at a rate higher than how often it occurs in the NCAA tournament. yet the NCAA tournament is the shitty way to decide things.
This post was edited on 4/2/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:03 pm to Cosmo
MLB is necessary because of the nature of baseball. NBA drags on interminably.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:03 pm to Bench McElroy
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Fact but this is not a good time to make this thread. Villanova is one of the best and most deserving champions to come along in a long time.
bruh this thread is in support of the ncaa tournament and is made at a perfect time
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:04 pm to 632627
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Then you have that absolute abortion when a 7 seed uconn beat 8 seed Kentucky for the national title.
That was such horeshit man. UW/UF would have been a fantastic game, but Harrison's prayer got answered for like the fourth frickin time against UW and UF ran into the only team (besides UW) to beat them that year.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:05 pm to 632627
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And like it or not, Loyola Chicago this year is one of those teams
Meh, they weren't the best team, but they also weren't an at-large team that just got hot at the right time like George Mason or VCU. They got to the Final Four doing exactly what they had done all season.
They held Miami, Tennessee and K-State to 62 points each in the tournament. They gave up an average of 62.5 points per game during the regular season.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:09 pm to 632627
Is that much different than an 85 or so win Cardinals team winning the WS or a 10-6 Giants team winning the SB?
In some eyes maybe we should just eliminate the postseason and name champions after the regular season.
In some eyes maybe we should just eliminate the postseason and name champions after the regular season.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:10 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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you have to win a bunch of games.
No, you have to win ten or eleven games. Four or five in the conference tournament and six in the NCAA tournament. Giving the only automatic berth to a conference tournament champion is a complete joke. A team can bust their arse for an entire season to have a great record, have one bad game against an inferior team and it knocks them out of making the tournament. For example, a 23-9 Wagner team with a 14-4 conference record lost their conference championship game to a 18-15 LIU team with a 10-8 conference record. It's ridiculous. Giving an automatic berth to a team that plays the best for four days instead of four months is one of the most illogical things in sports.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:15 pm to Bench McElroy
This is a great point, it renders the regular season championship moot.
At the very least regular season champions should get an automatic bid to the conference championship title game.
At the very least regular season champions should get an automatic bid to the conference championship title game.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:17 pm to Bench McElroy
You just like crowning a champion in sports that allow you to lose and call it a mulligan.
Imagine if Loyola was told, they'd be voted into the championship game after losing to Michigan...because they passed the "eye-test?"
Imagine if Loyola was told, they'd be voted into the championship game after losing to Michigan...because they passed the "eye-test?"
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