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re: F1 2019 Season Thread (Next race: Dec. 1 Abu Dhabi)

Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:45 pm to
WHAT A FARCE.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:46 pm to
What a shite finish. Vettel has every right to be irate.
Posted by chitiger91
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:48 pm to
I get it rules are rules but vettel had no option there
Posted by JoeHackett
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:51 pm to
I don't think that's a proper interpretation of the rule. Basically saying that if you're out of control, you're supposed to be in control. Based on that logic there should be about 15 penalties a race.
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:53 pm to
Vettel
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:53 pm to
Atta boy, Vettel!
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:55 pm to
Such a BS finish.
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:57 pm to
That was some grade A melting and I don't blame him lol
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:58 pm to
I don't know if there is an appeals process but hopefully Ferrari goes that route.

Such a great day ruined by that call.
Posted by JoeHackett
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 2:59 pm to
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That was some grade A melting and I don't blame him lol


Grade A for a European. I would have been breaking things and would currently be restrained.
Posted by livinforgmday
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:00 pm to
The penalty was absolutely justified. Vettel folded under the pressure of Ham. It isn't just about where Vettel came back, it was his fault for losing control heading into the breaking zone instead of having to slow down for a proper corner which would have given Ham the chance to overtake.
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:00 pm to
Seb is pissed and rightfully so, at least Ferrari finally got both drivers on the podium and showed some fight.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:02 pm to
What an awkward podium. The crowd booing too.
Posted by Xenophon
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:02 pm to
They said during the race that it can’t be appealed.

I get both sides of it. I didn’t want there to be a penalty. But I’m not convinced that he didn’t also purposely go wide a little bit.

Loved moving the place markers after the race.

Lewis is all class though. Very cool of him to pull Vettel up on the podium spot.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:07 pm to
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. It isn't just about where Vettel came back, it was his fault for losing control heading into the breaking zone


Losing control in the braking zone isn't a penalty. If Seb came back on track and hit the wall he wouldn't have been penalized. It would have been a racing incident. Think about that for a second. This is one area F1 really needs to fix.
Posted by livinforgmday
Member since Dec 2014
321 posts
Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:13 pm to
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Losing control in the braking zone isn't a penalty.


It is when you gain an advantage. Just like blowing a chicane, passing and having to give the position back. He can't blow the corner, lose control and push another driver off the track causing him to lose momentum.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:13 pm to
So he lost control and simultaneously gained an advantage? Interesting.
Posted by livinforgmday
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:17 pm to
yes, that's why the steward's levied a penalty. If Lewis isn't pushed off the track and overtakes, there wouldn't be a penalty.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Just like blowing a chicane, passing and having to give the position back. He can't blow the corner, lose control and push another driver off the track causing him to lose momentum.


What happened seems to be definition of racing incident. Hamilton had a line around him and instead went racing line and gave him the space.

I won't say the penalty was unjustified, but it was a shite penalty. Especially 5 seconds.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 6/9/19 at 3:18 pm to
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If Lewis isn't pushed off the track and overtakes, there wouldn't be a penalty.


A 5 second penalty pushed him to 3rd. Penalized him two spots. Way too harsh a penalty.
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