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re: F1 2019 Season Thread (Next race: Dec. 1 Abu Dhabi)
Posted on 4/14/19 at 2:36 am to HandGrenade
Posted on 4/14/19 at 2:36 am to HandGrenade
quite a snoozefest unfortunately
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Posted on 4/14/19 at 7:15 am to EventHorizon
Well...Ricciardo finally earned points.
Once again, Merc going to dominate a season.
Once again, Merc going to dominate a season.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 8:35 am to Dick Leverage
And maybe Hamilton specifically.
Raikkonen was making some moves today.
Raikkonen was making some moves today.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 9:29 am to weagle99
Ferrari is dumb
Posted on 4/14/19 at 11:39 am to theone
quote:(me, a few pages ago)
Ferrari achieve their best when foreigners are running things (e.g., Jean Todt / Ross Brawn). They seem dysfunctional when an Italian is in charge.
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Ferrari is dumb
Like I said, they need a foreigner in charge. They're so dysfunctional when an Italian is the boss.
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 4/14/19 at 3:45 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
that was a terrible race.
Edit: gonna watch INDYCAR at Long Beach now so I can flush that
Edit: gonna watch INDYCAR at Long Beach now so I can flush that
This post was edited on 4/14/19 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 4/14/19 at 5:59 pm to Cocotheape
Rossi just won the Indy race. Would like to see him get a seat in a Haas.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 6:05 pm to theone
Baku up next. So excited, hope it doesn't disappoint. Beautiful track/setting.
Posted on 4/14/19 at 8:36 pm to theone
Rossi smoked the rest of the field, fortunately a lot of action for all the other places
Baku cannot be worse than China. That one needed a crash/mechanical failure near the front to spice things up but instead we got...Kimi showing his class in the midfield, the Torpedo strikes back, and a nice race by Albon. Oh and Danny Ric finished a race.
Merc should get a 3 spot grid penalty every time they mention Ferrari’s speed advantage for the rest of the season.
Baku cannot be worse than China. That one needed a crash/mechanical failure near the front to spice things up but instead we got...Kimi showing his class in the midfield, the Torpedo strikes back, and a nice race by Albon. Oh and Danny Ric finished a race.
Merc should get a 3 spot grid penalty every time they mention Ferrari’s speed advantage for the rest of the season.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:23 am to fightin tigers
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Baku up next. So excited, hope it doesn't disappoint. Beautiful track/setting.
Hate the circuit but it's usually a good race.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:39 am to MountainTiger
That long arse main straight and over effective DRS is going to make all the passing happen right there
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:53 am to EventHorizon
Thank god for the masters yesterday. Boring race in China
Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:34 am to fightin tigers
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That long arse main straight and over effective DRS is going to make all the passing happen right there
That's about the only place it can happen.
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:55 pm to MountainTiger
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That's about the only place it can happen.
Kvyat disagrees with you.
Personally I think he was profiled this week with the penalty. Lando came back in his line. Especially for lap 1.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 7:56 pm
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:01 pm to theone
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Rossi just won the Indy race. Would like to see him get a seat in a Haas.
Wasn't he in line for a F1 seat at one point? Remind me what happened there. Or am I thinking of someone else?
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:32 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
So I watched the first episode of the F1 thing on Netflix.
Does anyone stand a chance but the top teams? It doesn’t look like it based on these results so far.
Does anyone stand a chance but the top teams? It doesn’t look like it based on these results so far.
Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:19 am to fightin tigers
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Personally I think he was profiled this week with the penalty.
I'm no Kvyat fan but I totally agree.
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Wasn't he in line for a F1 seat at one point?
Rossi had a seat in 2015 with Manor. Personally I don't see him trying to make a return to F1 with all the success he's been having in IndyCar.
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Does anyone stand a chance but the top teams? It doesn’t look like it based on these results so far.
No, unless something really wild happens, the only teams with a chance to win a race are Mercedes, Ferrari and Red Bull
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/17/19 at 9:21 pm to LouBega
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Does anyone stand a chance but the top teams? It doesn’t look like it based on these results so far.
It depends on what you mean.
Over just one season usually one, maybe two teams, separate themselves. Different reasons for this, I think most boils down to how much money is involved and how much the big teams commit to win. Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull (Honda/Aston Martin) are all winning names and can dedicate lots of money in promotion if their brand. They have money to burn.
Meanwhile, the middle teams are spinning their wheels because of the strict regulations and because the larger teams can just out R&D them.
Brawn was probably the last small team to find a loophole and expolit the hell out of it, while claiming a championship. (Yes, previous years R&D helped, but the double diffuser).
Red Bull taking of Jaguar wasn't exactly a big name at the time either.
So, each year you can probably see pretty quick how it will shake out. However, just 4 years ago Williams started a race 1&3 and screwed the pooch to finish 3rd. Now they are a making starts as a legacy team.
It can change quick for a team once on top to slip down the grid. Red Bull fighting for 3rd is another example.
Posted on 4/18/19 at 11:22 am to fightin tigers
Spot on, fightin tigers.
While I would like more parity in F1, this class touts itself as the "pinnacle of motorsports". In essence it's the unlimited class and anything goes as long as it's within the formula. Money is the key differentiator between the top few teams and the ones in the mid-pack. Specifically, wind tunnel time because it's all about aero. Look at Mercedes and Williams. Mercedes is the best team in the field and has been since the start of the turbo V6 hybrid era. Williams is barely hanging on at the back of the pack. Yet both teams run the same engine.
A team can plummet from respectability to irrelevance in a remarkably short span of time. However it takes longer to go the other direction. Ferrari are in that situation now. They once were dominant then fell on hard times. With Vettel and Arrivabene, they started to climb back out of the hole 4 years ago and now they're almost on par with Mercedes.
One thing that hurt Williams I think was losing their title sponsor Martini. Then to make matters worse, they had a deal almost in place with Rich Energy and Haas swooped in and undercut them. So I'm sure Claire has been having difficulty finding money to run the team. They pushed Massa out to make room for Stroll because he was bringing in lots of cash but turns out he's a shitty driver and ended up at Racing Point anyway after Daddy bought the team. And they lost Bottas to Mercedes after the surprise retirement of Rosberg. Everything that could go wrong for them has gone wrong in the last few years.
While I would like more parity in F1, this class touts itself as the "pinnacle of motorsports". In essence it's the unlimited class and anything goes as long as it's within the formula. Money is the key differentiator between the top few teams and the ones in the mid-pack. Specifically, wind tunnel time because it's all about aero. Look at Mercedes and Williams. Mercedes is the best team in the field and has been since the start of the turbo V6 hybrid era. Williams is barely hanging on at the back of the pack. Yet both teams run the same engine.
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However, just 4 years ago Williams started a race 1&3 and screwed the pooch to finish 3rd.
A team can plummet from respectability to irrelevance in a remarkably short span of time. However it takes longer to go the other direction. Ferrari are in that situation now. They once were dominant then fell on hard times. With Vettel and Arrivabene, they started to climb back out of the hole 4 years ago and now they're almost on par with Mercedes.
One thing that hurt Williams I think was losing their title sponsor Martini. Then to make matters worse, they had a deal almost in place with Rich Energy and Haas swooped in and undercut them. So I'm sure Claire has been having difficulty finding money to run the team. They pushed Massa out to make room for Stroll because he was bringing in lots of cash but turns out he's a shitty driver and ended up at Racing Point anyway after Daddy bought the team. And they lost Bottas to Mercedes after the surprise retirement of Rosberg. Everything that could go wrong for them has gone wrong in the last few years.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:56 am to MountainTiger
Interesting article from Stefan Johansson on motorsports.com about how to "fix" F1. This is part 1 of 4 so I'll update when the other parts come out.
I can't say I agree with everything he proposes. For one thing he advocates using spec parts, like wings for example. While it would probably improve the racing and keep costs down for the smaller teams, I wouldn't want F1 turned into a semi-spec series like IndyCar. However, he is in favor of dialing back aero, which I definitely agree with. Aerodynamics make the car go faster but it doesn't do anything to improve the racing.
Part 1
Part 2
I can't say I agree with everything he proposes. For one thing he advocates using spec parts, like wings for example. While it would probably improve the racing and keep costs down for the smaller teams, I wouldn't want F1 turned into a semi-spec series like IndyCar. However, he is in favor of dialing back aero, which I definitely agree with. Aerodynamics make the car go faster but it doesn't do anything to improve the racing.
Part 1
Part 2
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 9:58 am
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