re: ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America

They may have never agreed with her marrying OJ. They knew he repeatedly beat her. Ron was just an innocent dude in the wrong place at the wrong time. Almost an accidental death. Really two different perspectives.

If you remember the Davis Allen fued Al Davis was waiting for Allen to get called as a witness to help him get rid of Marcus.

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If you're putting Cochran and Bailey in the POS category then you better do it for every Defense lawyer, who at least is defending a murderer, in the U.S. They were just doing there job. All those lawyers have egos and they all want to win. No matter if they know the guy is guilty or not.

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I get that. You missed the point. frick Lee Bailey was still defending OJ on the doc and saying LAPD planted evidence, etc. He won already, quit the charade. He's a POS. Cochran went too far and possibly did illegal shite himself. The Hitler comments, changing OJ's house, inciting near race riots, etc. Give me a break, he was a turd.

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So pointing out that obvious and blatant unfair treatment of blacks is having a victim mentality? By the way the correct verb you should have used in that sentence is aren't.

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You're going way beyond that, but you already know that. This post alone shows you have a victim mentality. Also, I was typing something else and "isn't" would have been proper but I changed it and did not change it to "aren't". I am very thankful for your thought provoking rebuttal.

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Well Slackster brought up a race war so...........

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...that means you can come unhinged? Got it.

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Tell that to my white wife

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"I have lots of black friends". You ever hear that one and what's your first thought? Dude, your posts were filled with racist thoughts. Don't put that on anyone else or pass it off because you got yourself a white wife.

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No doubt. But I am trying to understand what the agent said on the doc and if anyone knew what he was taking about?

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OJ implied to his agent that he went over to Nicole s that night, but because she had a knife, that ultimately caused OJ to take the knife and kill her. Then the agent infers and takes it one step further by stating the knife she had didn't "cause"
the murders, but OJ in fact went to her house with intent to murder.

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What kind of justice system would we have in place if every defense lawyer that had an inkling that their client might be guilty refused to defend him to the very best of his/her ability?

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Surely you think there's a line somewhere right? You should be able to make any plausible argument, but making arguments you ought to know to be false or you fabricate yourself doesn't seem ethical at all.

I think back to the lawyer who defended Timothy McVeigh. He did his job admirably in the face of a lot of hatred. He still stood up for his client but he didn't bring absurdity into the courtroom.

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Good lawyers have to compartmentalize their personal feelings and do their job.

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Absolutely agree with this part - but that doesn't mean you should make arguments you know to be false.

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The ones that can't probably aren't making a good living.

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Making a good living is a separate issue which probably flies in the face of the "a good justice system for all" sensibility. Clearly our system is corrupted enormously by money. If you have a lot of it then you can literally get away with murder. If you don't have any you can be wrongly sent away like the west memphis three.

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I don't get the seemingly reflexive hate for the defense team either. What kind of justice system would we have in place if every defense lawyer that had an inkling that their client might be guilty refused to defend him to the very best of his/her ability?

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I'll go along with this, to a point.
At least Carl Douglas is owning up to his sleeze. Sort of Scheck did too. The rest, not so much. Do your job, fine, but you've got to own up that you ultimately let a killer go. Have some respect for the families.

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Well the defense team didn't let a killer go. The jury did. They're the ones with the true burden.

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You are correct. I've said it previously, I lay the total blame on OJ getting off on the jury.
All 12 of them knew what they did. They should be charged with not doing their job to at least deliberate.
Plus they should be publicly admonished for letting OJ off simply for Rodney King.

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OJ implied to his agent that he went over to Nicole s that night, but because she had a knife, that ultimately caused OJ to take the knife and kill her. Then the agent infers and takes it one step further by stating the knife she had didn't "cause"
the murders, but OJ in fact went to her house with intent to murder.

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Ok got it, thanks. I wonder what OJ said his reason was for going there in the first place to AC and agent? I'm sure it was "to talk to Nicole about why she was a meany to him". But I guess the agent is saying OJ told him she had a knife and "caused" this. Doesn't explain Ron. It's such horseshite anyway. It's so crazy when you see that envelope on the ground and think of that poor guy, Ron and how awful of timing he had. I know he was likely banging her but this was a real reason to come over and it happens to be the night a psychopath decides he's going to murder his wife. I guess it's possible he came over to talk to her and things escalated and he killed her. Then Ron walks up and OJ somehow had the element of surprise. Maybe Nicole told him Ron was on the way over and to leave her alone?

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At least Carl Douglas is owning up to his sleeze. Sort of Scheck did too. The rest, not so much. Do your job, fine, but you've got to own up that you ultimately let a killer go. Have some respect for the families.

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Yep. Douglas needs an asswhiping but he's mostly admitting they crossed boundaries to get their client off but he still holds that it's white people's fault mentality. Scheck was more direct about he had a job and he did it and didn't answer the "how do you feel" questions. He knows he defended a murdering scumbag which made him one by default as he stretched the truth as well according to some on the doc. But Bailey and Cochran? Pure scum as they knew he was guilty and even after they won pretended he was still innocent and still kept on with ruining people's lives. Bailey still talking shite about Fuhrman. The trial went away from evidence and slaughter of 2 people to a bullshite narrative about race.

All defense lawyers are scum by that logic.