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re: ESPN 30 for 30: O.J. Made In America

Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:37 am to
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:37 am to
quite possibly the biggest rags to riches back to rags story in US history
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:39 am to
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Correct, and maybe if the voice of whites standing against injustices to blacks was a bit louder we could stand on common grounds.

Victim mentality and you act like there isn't more white people fighting for equal rights than against.
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What else can you do to us? You have tried everything you possibly could to wipe us from existence and it hasn't worked. What is next, a race war to obliterate us? Bring it on. We won't lay down and we taking a hell of a lot you with us along the way.

You sound unbalanced.

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And we saw plenty of people celebrate young black men being killed by whites still today as we did back in the 1800s. We know where we stand with you.

You're the one who sounds like a racist.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 12:43 am
Posted by Manlaw35
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:46 am to
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Johnnie got the cancer. Got what he deserved.


Yep. Burn in Hell Johnnie! Do you know that this piece of shite has a Head Start named after him in Shreveport. He was born in Shreveport and lived there until he was 12 or so before his family move to Cali.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 12:52 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:56 am to
This is a great doc. True Dective meets Hoop Dreams...cinema beauty meets pure (and brutal) reality...and stuff we didn't know added into the mix.

This is a doc that should have been done 20 years ago.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 12:57 am
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:57 am to
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Bailey was supposedly the biggest POS

I believe it after watching part 4 just now. His scumbag arse was still acting like OJ was innocent and LAPD planted evidence. At least with scumbag Barry he was deflecting and basically saying they did their job. Shapiro wasn't happy about the way the trial went so racial or the Holocaust comment. Cochran and Bailey are shitty people and hopefully Cochran suffered a lot on his way out. The rest of them deserve to suffer as well.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 12:59 am to
Wow. You are hoping that s guy suffered before he died????? That's pretty sad. I think you are taking this whole thing a bit to serious.....
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:00 am to
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What else can you do to us? You have tried everything you possibly could to wipe us from existence and it hasn't worked. What is next, a race war to obliterate us? Bring it on. We won't lay down and we taking a hell of a lot you with us along the way.


LOL



Posted by Arkansasrazorback
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:07 am to
In his defense JC used some somewhat unethical methods to let a guy who BRUTALLY murdered two people walk free. One can't forget those crime scene photos. The person who did that (OJ) deserves more than life imprisonment and he walked free, innocent in the eyes of the law.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:16 am to
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In his defense JC used some somewhat unethical methods to let a guy who BRUTALLY murdered two people walk free. One can't forget those crime scene photos. The person who did that (OJ) deserves more than life imprisonment and he walked free, innocent in the eyes of the law.

yeah... go back to the crime scene photos and description of the injuries where they say Nicole was basically decapitated

everything was slashed all the way and into her vertebrae... if it had gone through that she would've been decapitated
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37009 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:40 am to
I do get annoyed with the retrospective analysis from some that this was a two way race war. There were some outlier white people who might not have liked OJ but most of white America really really liked the guy before the murders. Prejudice applies more to people you don't feel like you know.

If there had been reason to believe he wasn't responsible (not just reasonable doubt, but reason to believe in his innocence) a lot of people would have been really happy to hear the guy they had cheered for, watched in commercials, and watched on the movies wasn't a killer. It would have been a much better outcome to find out OJ actually was the nice and charming person he appeared to be for decades.

Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:43 am to
I'm just wondering what the picture that they show AC in the deposition that made him break down, I'm assuming it was one of the crime scene photos and Nicole covered in blood.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:44 am to
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Cochran and Bailey are shitty people and hopefully Cochran suffered a lot on his way out. The rest of them deserve to suffer as well.


I never understood the hate for the defense team. They were doing their jobs. If you were ever wrongfully accused of something (not that OJ was) you'd want them pulling out all the stops to get you off the hook. They have gotten more hate than the actual murderer over the years... Or the stupid fricking jury, frick them, they were the real POS

If the prosecution had the killer mentality of the the defense, OJ would've never walked. Instead they had Marcia Clark and her weave and the cornbread black dude Chris Darden... They were doomed from the onset, only a gutless putz could lose that case

Also, Shapiro was full of shite. Case went the exact way the dude wanted, but of course he will come out later defying the closing arguments of Cochran; dude had a career ahead of him and wanted to pretend he was above all that.
Posted by rt3
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:50 am to
Marcia Clark was a reporter for ET on Simpson's Vegas trial?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:51 am to
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I never understood the hate for the defense team.



IMO how you feel should mostly depend on the individual and what they said to the public about the case. If a lawyer has no problem admitting that he enjoys a lavish lifestyle and that's a major motivation for his profession? I at least have to respect him for his honesty. That's tons better than the type of nonsense we got from lawyer/politician John Edwards (about how he was improving society and doing good work) before his disgrace hit the press.

If you talk about the justice system and how it should be reformed or you portray yourself as an advocate of justice and a warrior for truth then you expose yourself to a much higher standard of behavior and social judgement.
Posted by rt3
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 1:55 am to
Judge Glass
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 2:23 am to
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I'm just wondering what the picture that they show AC in the deposition that made him break down, I'm assuming it was one of the crime scene photos and Nicole covered in blood.

It's the picture of Nicole beat up, the close up that shows the golf ball above her eye. They showed it before in other docs.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 2:24 am
Posted by Sho Nuff
Oahu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 4:21 am to
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I CC'd it and he said "if she wouldn't have"... this was followed after OJ claimed he went there to check, but didn't bring a/the knife. I don't think people are talking about this enough. OJ basically admitted to his agent that he killed her.

Agreed, and that makes the agent even more of a POS. The agent said its the same story OJ told AC. What was the story OJ told? Something about he went to check on her and if she did/didn't have a knife she'd still be alive?
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 4:25 am
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
7136 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 6:46 am to
If you're putting Cochran and Bailey in the POS category then you better do it for every Defense lawyer, who at least is defending a murderer, in the U.S. They were just doing there job. All those lawyers have egos and they all want to win. No matter if they know the guy is guilty or not.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37923 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 7:30 am to
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Something about he went to check on her and if she did/didn't have a knife she'd still be alive?


If she had a gun any of those times he beat the shite out of her or the night she was killed, this story would have been much, much different.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 7:49 am to
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Victim mentality and you act like there isn't more white people fighting for equal rights than against.
So pointing out that obvious and blatant unfair treatment of blacks is having a victim mentality? By the way the correct verb you should have used in that sentence is aren't.

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You sound unbalanced.
Well Slackster brought up a race war so...........

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You're the one who sounds like a racist.


Tell that to my white wife
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