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re: Edgar Martinez Hall of Fame Induction
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:45 pm to DallasTiger45
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:45 pm to DallasTiger45
mussina belongs in the hall of very good. not the HOF imo
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:49 pm to Lester Earl
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Mike Mussina for example, was never the best pitcher in the league at all
While i don't think he should be in, I don't think that's the reason why. That's like saying Ewing isn't an all time great in basketball because he was never the best player in the league, he played with the best player of all time.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:30 pm to The Ostrich
Well deserved. Shouldn’t have taken this long.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:54 pm to The Ostrich
He played a position and teams would have found a fielding position for him if there wasn’t the DH.. I don’t mind him having to wait some but it shouldn’t have taken the full allotment
Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:03 pm to The Ostrich
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but 300 HRs really isn't anything to knock
it's the fricking Hall of Fame. Not the Hall of "his stats aren't anything to knock"
Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:08 pm to VinegarStrokes
I can remember when every 300-homer player was in the Hall of Fame.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 9:45 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:
I can remember when every 300-homer player was in the Hall of Fame.
Roy Sievers retired in 1965.
You're 75?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 10:33 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
Is David Ortiz not a HOFer?
Depends on how you feel about PEDs and steroids.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:10 pm to gthog61
Roy Sievers hit 300? Maybe I'm wrong, then.
And I'm 57.
And I'm 57.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 11:16 pm to The Ostrich
He should have gotten in just because he let us see Griffey run from 1st to home in about 7 seconds.
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Posted on 1/24/19 at 12:52 am to The Ostrich
I could have swore he was 3B and not a DH during the 1995 run.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 1:43 am to The Ostrich
I think a lot of people are upset that he got in and Mcgriff didn’t.
This post was edited on 1/24/19 at 1:50 am
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:11 am to mjax57
Fred McGriff absolutely should be in.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 5:54 am to Honest Tune
quote:I'm torn
Fred McGriff absolutely should be in.
As a Braves fan I want him in but I think his candidacy is "too debatable." I wouldn't complain if he were elected though
Posted on 1/24/19 at 7:55 am to Pilot Tiger
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I'm torn
As a Braves fan I want him in but I think his candidacy is "too debatable." I wouldn't complain if he were elected though
He had a run in Toronto and then in San Diego in the late 80s/early 90s where he finished the following in MVP: 17, 6, 10, 10, 6, 4, 8, 20.
If you look at the years (88 and 90) where he finished 17 and 10 (the first time), it's clear that he got about the same respect in those seasons that he is getting for his career. I could argue that he should have been top 5 both seasons if you look at the numbers comparisons between him and the guys above him. In 1990, he had the misfortune of the AL having 3 dominant starters and 2 dominant closers who all got voted above him, which is absurd. That means he was putting up his ridiculous numbers (35 HRs, .300/.400/.530) in a league that had some really good pitching which should increase the value of his stats.
I think the absurd part of McGriff not getting in is that he (and probably Murphy as well) have the misfortunes of being disregarded due to not hitting the next "milestone" number of home runs.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 8:02 am to VinegarStrokes
If not for the strike, McGriff would have breezed past 500 homers. Every eligible player with 475 or more homers (not tainted by the steroid stink) is in the HoF.
Posted on 1/24/19 at 8:56 am to FightinTigersDammit
I dont see where McGriff is a HOFer.
WAR-31
wRC+-38
wOBA-51
AVG-131
OBA-65
SLG-29
HR-11
.280/.383/.546, .391 wOBA, 135 wRC+, 44.2 WAR
.277/.399/.516, .394 wOBA, 140 wRC+, 49.8 WAR
.284/.377/.509, .383 wOBA, 134 wRC+, 56.9 WAR
One of those is Fred McGriff. The others are Carlos Delgado and Jason Giambi.
WAR-31
wRC+-38
wOBA-51
AVG-131
OBA-65
SLG-29
HR-11
.280/.383/.546, .391 wOBA, 135 wRC+, 44.2 WAR
.277/.399/.516, .394 wOBA, 140 wRC+, 49.8 WAR
.284/.377/.509, .383 wOBA, 134 wRC+, 56.9 WAR
One of those is Fred McGriff. The others are Carlos Delgado and Jason Giambi.
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