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FightinTigersDammit
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Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
Do they try to make everyone a power hitter and preach launch angle, or not promote hitters as fast if they don't fall in line with the walk/KO/HR gospel?


Splackavellie
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LSUBoo
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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
To some degree, probably so.

I remember Votta and Ichiro getting criticized at times for drawing walks or bunting for a hit with runners on instead of trying to drive them all in.

Probably also the economics of MLB... the guys that hit .260 with a lot of bombs are getting paid more than the guys who hit .310 but mostly singles.


D011ahbi11
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Do they try to make everyone a power hitter and preach launch angle, or not promote hitters as fast if they don't fall in line with the walk/KO/HR gospel?


No. Ever heard of Nick Madrigal?


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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
Jose Altuve can do it all


FulshearTiger
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and preach launch angle


Teams don't preach launch angle. Launch angle does not mean more power.


EuphoricSSP
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Teams don't preach launch angle. Launch angle does not mean more power.



I don't think its one size fits all. I think teams would encourage it with certain hitters who pull the ball well depending on the home stadium. Astros have that short porch in left or the Green Monster in Boston.


ETA: Three True Outcomes has diminished the desire for contact hitters, I don't think teams tell them to avoid contact though
This post was edited on 6/10 at 3:31 pm


stlslick
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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
chicks dig the long ball


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BatonrougeCajun
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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
You can’t preach launch angle. Literally every ball put in play has an angle as it comes off the bat. You can preach making contact out front as to get extended and hit the ball harder but the downside to that is you have to commit to the ball earlier and that’s what causes more strikeouts.


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Undertow
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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
It comes down to defensive shifts. Ground balls were outs so players started trying to hit it in the air. Analytics told them that was the way to go. But I think it’s player driven, not organizationally driven.

Batting averages are at an all-time low. I think they need to limit the shift and enforce this foreign substance ban for pitchers to incentivize players to be more all-round hitters.


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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
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Do they try to make everyone a power hitter and preach launch angle, or not promote hitters as fast if they don't fall in line with the walk/KO/HR gospel?


Probably more of the latter. Power hitters with high OPS and slugging % get promoted quicker


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AUCE05
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I wonder how an old school speed type team would compare to today's guys. I bet there is a jacked up Kenny Loften driving a forklift because he didn't have the metrics.


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Snoop Dawg
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To some degree, probably so. I remember Votta and Ichiro getting criticized at times for drawing walks or bunting for a hit with runners on instead of trying to drive them all in.


Not Ichiro. He wasn’t into walks or bunts, he was all about hitting it in play and using his speed to beat the throw to first.


VADawg
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Not Ichiro. He wasn’t into walks or bunts, he was all about hitting it in play and using his speed to beat the throw to first.


Ichiro could have probably hit close to 400 HR if he focused on hitting for more power. He is up there with Tony Gwynn among the best pure hitters I've ever seen. It was a thing of beauty watching him hit.


Snoop Dawg
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Ichiro could have probably hit close to 400 HR if he focused on hitting for more power. He is up there with Tony Gwynn among the best pure hitters I've ever seen. It was a thing of beauty watching him hit.


I am a big Ichiro fan and will be in Cooperstown for his HOF inauguration, but he is partly overrated as a hitter. He is no Tony Gwynn or Edgar Martinez at the plate. He is the next tier down. Ichiro’s OB% is disappointing because he was all about getting hits, not walks.

Before any down votes this, Edgar Martinez beats Ichiro in career batting average, slugging %, and on base %.


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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
There was a stretch where Seattle tried hitting Ichiro 2 or 3 to produce more runs, but he never really changed his approach.
This post was edited on 6/10 at 9:15 pm


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nvasil1
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Nick Madrigal

60 day IL for torn hamstring.


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bigberg2000
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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
It’s been this way for nearly 5 years. It’s the same with the NBAs thoughts of threes or layups. Nothing in between.


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VADawg
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re: Do MLB teams discourage contact hitters?
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I am a big Ichiro fan and will be in Cooperstown for his HOF inauguration, but he is partly overrated as a hitter. He is no Tony Gwynn or Edgar Martinez at the plate. He is the next tier down. Ichiro’s OB% is disappointing because he was all about getting hits, not walks.


I always wonder how good he would have been if he had started in the USA instead of being a rookie at 27. If he had been a rookie in MLB at 21, I truly believe he could have made a very serious run at Pete Rose's hits record.


Snoop Dawg
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I always wonder how good he would have been if he had started in the USA instead of being a rookie at 27. If he had been a rookie in MLB at 21, I truly believe he could have made a very serious run at Pete Rose's hits record.


I think he would have crushed that record. Just as Wade Boggs was obsessed with his BA, Ichiro was obsessed with his hit totals.


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