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Discrepancies in Different Levels of the same Sport
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:05 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:05 am
To me the biggest one is the where the hash marks are placed in college and pro football. And I’m not sure why there is a difference, but it sure changes how the game is played and coached. It’s way bigger than moving the extra point back, that’s either just to make the try harder, or for Vegas reasonings. Why not uniformity?
I get that in basketball the three point line is not the same, nor the amount of time on the shot clock, but it seems so weird that high school uses quarters, college just the two halves, and then back to quarters in the pros. Again, why?
Baseball you start playing on pro dimensions as early as 12, definitely by high school. Hockey, soccer, golf, heck bowling all use the same rules across the board.
What are some other ones that come to mind?
I get that in basketball the three point line is not the same, nor the amount of time on the shot clock, but it seems so weird that high school uses quarters, college just the two halves, and then back to quarters in the pros. Again, why?
Baseball you start playing on pro dimensions as early as 12, definitely by high school. Hockey, soccer, golf, heck bowling all use the same rules across the board.
What are some other ones that come to mind?
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:10 am to PublixSubs
1st down stopping clock in cfb. Makes game an hour longer for no reason.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:12 am to PublixSubs
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And I’m not sure why there is a difference
They're closer in the pro game because it makes the throw to the sidelines longer. That's a huge reason why weak armed QBs can't be hidden in the NFL.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:13 am to Tangineck
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1st down stopping clock in cfb. Makes game an hour longer for no reason.
Yeah, this rule needs to go away too. This has made games much longer as college passing games have gotten better.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:20 am to PublixSubs
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To me the biggest one is the where the hash marks are placed in college and pro football. And I’m not sure why there is a difference, but it sure changes how the game is played and coached
It is a big thing for defenses disguising coverage
defenses in college have to show a lot more pre snap because of the wider hashes
Great article by Geoff Schwartz on it
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 10:30 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:25 am to VADawg
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They're closer in the pro game because it makes the throw to the sidelines longer.
The reason they're closer together in the Pros is to help the offense by giving them more field to work with on both sides.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:28 am to PublixSubs
The nfl and college football have a couple. The time stopping for a first down in college. The pass interference in college not being spot of foul is huge. The targeting in college vs no targeting in pros.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:28 am to PublixSubs
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Baseball you start playing on pro dimensions as early as 12, definitely by high school. Hockey, soccer, golf, heck bowling all use the same rules across the board.
The bats used to be a massive difference. Less so now, but still a part of it.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:29 am to VADawg
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They're closer in the pro game because it makes the throw to the sidelines longer. That's a huge reason why weak armed QBs can't be hidden in the NFL.
They were moved to make more room for the offense to operate in 1972 or so.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:33 am to Reginald666
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The pass interference in college not being spot of foul is huge.
College does it right. PI is called way to liberally to be given a spot foul.
Especially since the nba calls traveling more than the NFL rules balls uncatchable
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 10:34 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:34 am to Dire Wolf
NFL spot foul on PI is the most BS penalty
CFB targeting is the most BS penalty
CFB targeting is the most BS penalty
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:43 am to Dire Wolf
I understand the effects these different rules cause, say the option working in college but not the pros, but what I don’t get is why not have universal ones?
I googled and found out high school football uses a third different set of hash mark spacing!
I googled and found out high school football uses a third different set of hash mark spacing!
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:47 am to VADawg
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They're closer in the pro game because it makes the throw to the sidelines longer.
The Pros moved them in closer to open up the game. He'll, they don't really matter anymore they're so close. The Pros basically want the ball in the middle of the field, that's why they're so close together.
Prior to 1933, the hash mark didn’t exist. The ball was simply marked where the player was tackled down, and the next play began where the previous play ended. So often plays would start near the sidelines.
The hash mark was written into the NFL's first rule book in 1933 at 10 yards from each sideline. Over the years the distance of the hashmarks has increased. In 1935, the distance grew to 15 yards. Ten years later, the hashes were moved again to 20 yards from the sideline. Finally, in 1972, the hashmarks were moved to where they remain today at 70 feet, 9 inches.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:51 am to VADawg
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Yeah, this rule needs to go away too. This has made games much longer as college passing games have gotten better.
Disagree. I like the rule and it makes the ends of games more exciting. Plus they start the clock back when the ball is set, and the officials have generally gotten pretty quick with this. It definitely isn't making games anywhere close to an hour longer.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:59 am to Reginald666
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The nfl and college football have a couple. The time stopping for a first down in college. The pass interference in college not being spot of foul is huge. The targeting in college vs no targeting in pros.
Only need one foot for a catch in-bounds in college, but in the pros you need two.
In the pros, for a play to be blown dead, the ball carrier doesn’t just need to be down, but knocked or touched down. So, if a wr makes a diving catch and isn’t touched by an opposing player, he can get back up and start running. In college, the play is dead as soon as the ball carrier is down.
Linemen are allowed to block 5 yards downfield on passing plays in college, but cannot be more than one yard downfield in the NFL. This is a huge factor in the success of the college rpo offense.
College and pros have different rules for initiating video reviews, leading to more reviews in college.
NFL has a shorter halftime.
Overtime formats are completely different (college is way more fun)
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 11:00 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:15 am to PublixSubs
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Baseball you start playing on pro dimensions as early as 12, definitely by high school. Hockey, soccer, golf, heck bowling all use the same rules across the board.
Soccer varies a good bit on lower levels. Younger age groups play on small fields and don't use a goalkeeper. They also have varying age brackets. I know it isn't comparing to HS, College, or pros, but age brackets are two years up until 10. 5-6 year olds play together, 7-8, and 9-10. Once they hit the 11 year spot, it is annual. My daughter has been playing about 5-6 years now, competitively the last 3-4 of that. It also goes off of birth year, instead of school grade, even though her season is only during the school year. She's on a 2008 team, and they started practice in August, played games and tournaments until November, then took a break. Practice starts back up now, and they will have games and tournaments until May.
Younger ages play 6v6, then 7v7, then 9v9, then 11v11 where she is now. Also this is the first year playing on a regulation field. This is all club soccer. High schools around here it is similar to other sports, with a freshman team, JV, and Varsity. So it seems kind of odd to me that they play only kids their age until they get to maybe 10th grade, then it is playing against 10-12th graders.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:44 am to kingbob
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NFL has a shorter halftime.
This is an underrated rule. I hate college half times.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:46 am to theOG
I wonder if that’s a rule or just the marching bands, etc.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:53 am to PublixSubs
NFL halftime is 12 minutes (except for Super Bowl). College halftimes are 20 minutes. Definitely love the NFL halftime. College too long, but yes, I think it is designed to let the marching bands do their show.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:59 am to theOG
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This is an underrated rule. I hate college half times.
I love being able to set a timer for 12 minutes after the first half ends. I can get something done around the house and know exactly when I need to be back on the couch.
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