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re: Dennis Dodd claims the Big 12 is willing to take back Nebraska

Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by jb4
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Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:52 pm to
For a night
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37023 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 1:59 pm to
i bet Big XII would take them back. Easy win, close travel, and since they don't share revenue equally in the Big XII, no money concerns.

I even bet B1G would let them leave. At this point, they have to be a net negative to the B1G.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37023 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:01 pm to
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South
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Baylor
TCU
Tech


Aight. This is ok.

quote:

North

Iowa
Iowa State
WVU
Nebraska
Kansas
Kansas State


Oh that's terrible.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37023 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Georgia tech has won a football NC and been to multiple final fours since the last time Georgia did either.

Kick out Georgia and bring back the true athletic power in the state




Nerds unite!
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47474 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:07 pm to
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Serious question, why the hell does the B10 care when Nebraska has proved they can play safely?


no one has proved they can play safely with COVID yet
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37023 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

new people are in charge in the big 12


In the conference office, yes. Texas is still Texas and still full of itself and it's stupid Longhorn Network.

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think the only school that would never come back under any circumstance is A&M


We mock Aggy a whole lot, for good reason, but the reality is they are far more like an SEC program, than they are like a Big XII program. Some of their traditions are silly, some of their chants are silly, but that could be said about the Grove, cowbells, Tiger Bait, Toomer's Corner, etc.

A&M has a personality, unlike the rest of the Big XII (except for maybe UT and OU).
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20305 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:17 pm to
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quote:

Serious question, why the hell does the B10 care when Nebraska has proved they can play safely?


no one has proved they can play safely with COVID yet
No one has proven that extremely fit college athletes CAN'T play football safely.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Texas and the Big 12 NEED to get that situation under control, and come up with something that doesn't alienate the other members. If they do that, I could see Nebraska and Colorado, at least, returning to the group.


Colorado has become more like a PAC school than previously, probably due to the state being more like a Left Coast state. Doubt they return.

Nebraska, if terms are right, would probably come back. Their beef with the Longhorns only goes back to the formation of the Big 12.

Missouri probably doesn't go back to the Big 12. If they could grab Nebraska's former Big 10 spot (if it happens) they would explore that route first.

Of course A&M will never return to any conference with the Longhorns barring the Texas Legislature mandating it. Their athletic disputes go back way too far.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:22 pm to
A&M is an SEC school. There is no reason for them to go back. Arky and Mizzou would at a minimum listen to offers.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19098 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:37 pm to
Roscoe,

Nebraska will be more competitive, and more successful in the Big 12. That will result in better rankings, better recruits, and more revenue in the longterm.

It’s a smart move.

Nebraska will never be more than a second tier power in the Big 10.

They’ve like Maryland.

Yes, they get decent revenue from the Big 10, but they’ll never be relevant as a football power, they’ll never be able to compete with Ohio State, PSU, or Michigan. They won’t be able to get the recruits. And their schedule is too difficult.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
8536 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:48 pm to
What does that say about the Big 12 and. Nebraska?

Big 12 - weak
Nebraska - run to another conference because you can't compete in the Big Ten.

Going backwards and lowering the bar is no way to compete for national titles. The cream always rises to the top.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19098 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:50 pm to
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Going backwards and lowering the bar is no way to compete for national titles. The cream always rises to the top.


They’ll never compete for a national title in the Big 10.

They might in the Big 12.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28026 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:51 pm to
it's their only chance to be a top25 program again.

Frost has a tie to Florida Talent, and would again have a pipeline back into tejas.




Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40090 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 2:59 pm to
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He says the conference would welcome them back with open arms, per a source within the Big 12


That is shocking to me. I thought the breakup was ugly.


There are multiple things that could have changed in the last 10 years.
-Nebraska might have realized that the grass isn't always greenier on the other side.
-Texas might have realized that the only way it gets to keep the LHN is to stay in the Big12.
-OU might have realized that its best bet is to keep the Big12 together because they do not get into either the PAC-16 or a 16 team Big10 without having to divorce Okie State and they probably do not want to do go through that political fight.

Those are just some of the things that might have changed. However, what we do know is that the other Big12 teams will gladly welcome Nebraska back because it would stabilize the conference, and them avoid the fate of being orphaned out of a top level conference like what happened to UCONN, Cincy, and USF when the Big East fell apart.

Plus both Nebraska and Texas have had a change in leadership since the breakup, and the Big12 has a different commissioner than they did when Nebraska and Colorado bolted.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19098 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:04 pm to
UT can’t dictate terms the way they used to either.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34649 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:08 pm to
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Georgia Tech to SEC East

Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12462 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:10 pm to
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We mock Aggy a whole lot, for good reason, but the reality is they are far more like an SEC program, than they are like a Big XII program. Some of their traditions are silly, some of their chants are silly, but that could be said about the Grove, cowbells, Tiger Bait, Toomer's Corner, etc.

A&M has a personality, unlike the rest of the Big XII (except for maybe UT and OU).


I'm going to respectfully disagree. I am married to an Aggie. We started dating in the last two years the Aggies were in the Big 12. Aggie is not like the SEC or the Big 12. They are there own, weird thing. I will say that I noticed a drastic change in attire of the coeds on campus when the change to the SEC happened. They went from t-shirts and jerseys to sundresses.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9420 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:13 pm to
Missouri and A&M are never leaving the SEC. too much money and prestige on the line. Nebraska going back will definitely legitimize the big12 back to 2 or 3rd best league.
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:18 pm to
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That would be the wrong move, however. Of all the P5s, and despite what happened yesterday and the Big 10’s and PAC 12’s lack of recent success in the BCS and CFBP, if Super Conferences are ever gonna happen, the Big 12 will be the 1st to dissolve. Any time it’s ever been discussed and mock conferences hypothetically created, it’s always either Texas and OU (and their respective state schools with them) to the PAC 12 or SEC and schools like Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State left holding the bag alone, desperately scurrying to find a chair.



Not anymore. Stuart Mandel has been writing about this. It's the Pac 12 that's going to fall apart with several big members potentially going to the Big 12.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40090 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 3:38 pm to
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Missouri and A&M are never leaving the SEC. too much money and prestige and stability on the line.


FIFY

Mizzou (even though they are in the SEC East) and A&M won the relocation jackpot when they changed conferences. Some SEC fans (i.e. LSU fans myself included) might complain about the SEC being too Bama friendly (which it is), but the favoritism given to Bama by the SEC is nothing when compared to the problems in some of the other conferences out there.
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