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Delonte West sage should lead to a massive reform of pro sports
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:37 pm
Delonte West living in the streets
There's simply too much money being made by pro sports/owners that it's criminal they don't have vetted, permitted, & consistently reviewed financial advisers along with psychological evaluations & treatment for their players. You simply cannot continue to take these kids from the most average & below average of childhoods & into supreme professional sports popularity then just toss them in the streets when their careers are done. It's just not right. We have too much evidence that the "let them be adults" tactic isn't working.
There's simply too much money being made by pro sports/owners that it's criminal they don't have vetted, permitted, & consistently reviewed financial advisers along with psychological evaluations & treatment for their players. You simply cannot continue to take these kids from the most average & below average of childhoods & into supreme professional sports popularity then just toss them in the streets when their careers are done. It's just not right. We have too much evidence that the "let them be adults" tactic isn't working.
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Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:39 pm to Tigear
It's definitely a shame what's happening to him, but at a certain point, personal responsibility, family, and friends need to come into play.
Owners shouldn't be required to do anything but pay their contract. They're business owners, not parents.
Owners shouldn't be required to do anything but pay their contract. They're business owners, not parents.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:40 pm to Tigear
People who make poor choices in life shouldn't be shielded from the consequences.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:41 pm to Tigear
He’s 36 years old man. At what point is it not the owners responsibility?
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:41 pm to Tigear
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There's simply too much money being made by pro sports/owners that it's criminal they don't have vetted, permitted, & consistently reviewed financial advisers along with psychological evaluations & treatment for their players. You simply cannot continue to take these kids from the most average & below average of childhoods & into supreme professional sports popularity then just toss them in the streets when their careers are done. It's just not right. We have too much evidence that the "let them be adults" tactic isn't working.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:41 pm to Tigear
Maybe they should start requiring college degrees to be an employee like a lot of other multi million dollar businesses do.
I cannot feel sorry for people who make more in a month than I do in a decade. Stop enabling them and make them actually have to go to class to get a contract and you'd weed out the foolish ones.
Maybe.
I cannot feel sorry for people who make more in a month than I do in a decade. Stop enabling them and make them actually have to go to class to get a contract and you'd weed out the foolish ones.
Maybe.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:41 pm to Tigear
Basically you think pro leagues should babysit their players. That's ridiculous.
West was diagnosed while in the league and was given plenty of help. You can help a person all you want but it doesn't matter if they don't want to be helped.
West was diagnosed while in the league and was given plenty of help. You can help a person all you want but it doesn't matter if they don't want to be helped.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:43 pm to Tigear
It sucks to see but why should the league be held responsible? At some point the employer/employee relationship has to end.
Sorry to burst your bubble but a former NBA player living on the streets while battling mental illness won't cause any sort of "massive reform of pro sports." This is real life, not twitter
Sorry to burst your bubble but a former NBA player living on the streets while battling mental illness won't cause any sort of "massive reform of pro sports." This is real life, not twitter
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:43 pm to Tigear
He has legitimate mental issues. He didn't just lose his money and now he lives on the street.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:45 pm to Tigear
I don’t know about the NBA but pretty sure the NFL has a rookie symposium every year and has people that come in and speak to the incoming rookies about managing their new wealth, financial planning, and how to say no to all the long lost family and friends who have their hands out. Not really sure what else a league can do to force players to be responsible with their finances
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:45 pm to JetsetNuggs
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but at a certain point, personal responsibility, family, and friends need to come into play.
Owners shouldn't be required to do anything but pay their contract. They're not parents.
But, haven't we found enough instances that this stance ISN'T working? The athletes are NOT getting the training or education needed to handle pro life. How many dead broke former athletes do we need before something is changed for the better?
The PR value of providing the services alone would pay for the costs of the "Pro Sports Athletes Veterans Dept" (or whatever anyone wants to call them.
So many of these guys come from NOWHERE or get into the pro sports life & have a complete disassociation with the real world after a while. These athletes don't come up in white collar financing & savings training.
Give 1000 common street bums $100,000 & within a month, 85% of them will be back on the street.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:45 pm to Tigear
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pro sports/owners
*Pro sports Governors
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:45 pm to Tigear
Delonte West played in the NBA until he was 29 years old and made $16 million. He was hardly a kid, and thrown into the streets after his career. I do feel bad for the guy, but it’s not quite that cut and dry.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:46 pm to Tigear
Talk to the payers union. They have had numerous opportunities to negotiate for stuff like that, but preferred free agency and more money.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:47 pm to Tigear
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So many of these guys come from NOWHERE or get into the pro sports life & have a complete disassociation with the real world after a while. These athletes don't come up in white collar financing & savings training.
Do you think the average person does have that sort of training? shite, at least an NBA player can pay someone to help out with finances, the rest of us have to figure it out on our own.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:48 pm to Tigear
Again, personal responsibility.
I never like seeing people end up like this, but it's his life to succeed or fail, not the owner of a billion dollar business that likely has other extremely important things in his/her own life.
Mental health does need to be treated more, but it shouldn't be forced on owners to create that structure. If they do it out of the goodness of their hearts, that's great.
I never like seeing people end up like this, but it's his life to succeed or fail, not the owner of a billion dollar business that likely has other extremely important things in his/her own life.
Mental health does need to be treated more, but it shouldn't be forced on owners to create that structure. If they do it out of the goodness of their hearts, that's great.
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:49 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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People who make poor choices in life shouldn't be shielded from the consequences.
The bulk of athletes who go broke after their pro careers didn't just simply make poor choices. They got taken advantage of because they purely didn't know any better. They didn't have anyone in their life to educate them on the leaches & hangers on who would show up, bleed them dry, & then disappear.
The guys are proving over & over they are ill-equipped to handle the pro life AFTER their pro life income is over.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:50 pm to Dawgwithnoname
Maybe they should start requiring college degrees.....????? Not according to this board or TD that gets all hot wet and bothered when an underclassman goes pro even short of his graduation.
Get the money, they say . Don't risk getting hurt without getting paid for it......oh he can always go back to college.
No they won't....Shaq is kind of the outlier in that respect. When they are used up they will be kicked to the curb
Get the money, they say . Don't risk getting hurt without getting paid for it......oh he can always go back to college.
No they won't....Shaq is kind of the outlier in that respect. When they are used up they will be kicked to the curb
This post was edited on 1/21/20 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:51 pm to Tigear
He shouldn’t have fricked Lebron’s mom.
Posted on 1/21/20 at 3:51 pm to Dawgwithnoname
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Talk to the payers union. They have had numerous opportunities to negotiate for stuff like that, but preferred free agency and more money.
This would be a great start. The chatter is starting this week in light of Delonte's story making the rounds. People are going to start speaking up about ways to make things better.
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