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Volvagia
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
The biggest question that you need to talk about:

Why are you acting like single elimination format is in the slightest a good way to determine the best team of a given year?


The logical basis of such a process is proven wrong literally every single year.

Icing on the cake is when the same teams meet 3 weeks apart with opposite results but only one of the two matters because “reasons.”


BayouBengals03
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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1. Every P5 team plays 9 conference games and 2 Non Conf games against other P5 teams.

2. 8 team playoff that includes the 5 conf champions, highest ranked non P5, and 2 at large.

3. Get rid of CFP committee. Go back to BCS computer/polls.


Yep.


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David Duvall
Georgia Fan
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
1. Eliminate Conference Champ Games
2. BCS System for Rating Teams
3. 5 Automatic Bids Conference Champs
4. 3 At Large Bids
5. Higher Seed Plays Home 1st Round
6. 2nd Round Current Format
7. Title Game Same Format

Under System

Clemson
Oklahoma
Georgia
Washington
Ohio State
Alabama
Wisconsin
UCF

1. Clemson
8. Central Florida

4. Alabama
5. Ohio St

2. Georgia
7. Washington

3. Oklahoma
6. Wisconsin


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SammyTiger
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
8 team playoffs

5 conference champions
3 at large teams

G5 teams get in if they are in the top 15.

I think No only would this work, you would be hard pressed to find a year where this left a remotely deserving team out.

I dont Think the argument ahould be “does this team deserve to make the playoffs” it should be “does this team have an arguement that they are the best team in the country and we just don’t realize it”


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easy money
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
The season schedule is 8 games, only conference games.

Committee seeds each p-5 conference 1-4 and at large 1-4.

Week 9 pairs #1 from a conference with #4 for another conference, #2 with 3...so forth.

Each set of 4 teams will be represented by 4 conferences or 3 conferences and an at large. Playoff built into regular season. The end of the season will feature one survivor tested by all conferences...everyone given a shot. Only one undefeated team possible.


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St Augustine
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
Eliminate divisions.

Play 10 conference games ( 2 non)

Top two teams teams play from each conference in ccg

4 team playoff taken from bcs standings.


There. Your regular season is improved with 10 conference games and eliminating shitty matchups, you get much better championship games without shite division winners, and you get the four best teams who all just won very difficult ccg into playoffs.
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Pedro
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
drop G5s down to fcs since clearly theyll never have an actual shot at playing for a championship.

expand to 6 where all 5 conference champs and an at large get in. call it a day


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shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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8 teams
Power 5 conference champs get automatic bid
Top ranked G5 conference champ gets in
2 wild cards


How are you going to explain why a fringe top 20 team will get into your 8 team playoff in some years while teams as high as almost top 5 and surely top 10 will not?

That won't solve anything.


tress4pres
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Member since Dec 2007
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
I would like to see big OOC games moved to the end of the season. That would eliminate the “they were a different team earlier in the year” argument and be a better measuring stick for playoff contenders.


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SeeeeK
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
Top40-50, what ever is needed to get my team in.


Sin,

Jim Harbaugh


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LSUbase13
South Carolina Fan
Charleston, SC
Member since Mar 2008
13492 posts

re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
#1 vs #8 (#1 team hosts)
#4 vs #5 (#4 team hosts)

#2 vs #7 (#2 team hosts)
#3 vs #6 (#3 team hosts)

Winners play in Bowls/Final 4 style matchup


St Augustine
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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25 years ago they were still ending games in ties


I actually like the ties. Don’t really see anything wrong with them.


SabiDojo
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
I wouldn't change the playoff format. I'd just change the regular season.

I'd get rid of non-P5 teams on P5 schedules ("cupcake games").


rocket31
Toledo Fan
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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I wouldn't change the playoff format. I'd just change the regular season.

I'd get rid of non-P5 teams on P5 schedules ("cupcake games").



this ^

we would have a much better idea which conferences were worthy of the playoffs if they actually played more games against one another in the regular season


SeeeeK
Missouri Fan
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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I actually like the ties. Don’t really see anything wrong with them.


Ties were stupid, teams would play for the tie, rather than take any risks to lose. You would have teams run, play safe, and punt to each other, with 5+ minutes in game.





shel311
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McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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#1 vs #8 (#1 team hosts)
#4 vs #5 (#4 team hosts)

#2 vs #7 (#2 team hosts)
#3 vs #6 (#3 team hosts)

Winners play in Bowls/Final 4 style matchup
UCF says hi, your process still has issues.


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Tiger Prawn
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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How are you going to explain why a fringe top 20 team will get into your 8 team playoff in some years while teams as high as almost top 5 and surely top 10 will not?


Because the CFP committee hasn't given good teams from G5 conferences their fair credit and leaves them far back in the rankings. For example, since the CFP started, look at where some G5 teams have landed in the final CFP rankings of the season

2017: 12-0 UCF ranked #12 (beat #7 Auburn in bowl)

2016: 13-0 Western Michigan ranked #15 (lost by a TD to #8 Wisconsin in bowl)

2015: 12-1 Houston ranked #18 (beat #9 Florida St in bowl)

2013: 12-1 UCF ranked #10 (beat #6 Baylor in bowl)


These fringe top 20 teams seem to compete well against top 10 competition from traditional power conferences when given the chance. The fringe top 20 team from this year beat an Auburn team that has wins against both of the teams playing in the CFP championship game.

This years CFP could've looked like:

1 Clemson (ACC) vs 8 UCF (top G5)
2 Oklahoma (Big 12) vs 7 USC (Pac 12)
3 Georgia (SEC) vs 6 Wisconsin (at large)
4 Alabama (at large) vs 5 Ohio St (Big 10)

ETA:
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That won't solve anything.


Win your conference and you're guaranteed a spot




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shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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Because the CFP committee hasn't given good teams from G5 conferences their fair credit and leaves them far back in the rankings.
And you think the fans and those paying for ad space will just say, "oh, ok. We understand" ???

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This years CFP could've looked like:

1 Clemson (ACC) vs 8 UCF (top G5)
2 Oklahoma (Big 12) vs 7 USC (Pac 12)
3 Georgia (SEC) vs 6 Wisconsin (at large)
4 Alabama (at large) vs 5 Ohio St (Big 10)

2014(which you left off your list) would have included a 20th ranked Boise St team, and left off other top 10 or higher teams. I don't think your explanation of G5 and fair credit is going to go over well in that instance.


Tiger Prawn
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re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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2014(which you left off your list) would have included a 20th ranked Boise St team, and left off other top 10 or higher teams. I don't think your explanation of G5 and fair credit is going to go over well in that instance.



OK, so throw in #20 Boise from 2014. They went on to beat #11 Arizona in their bowl game. So in the 5 seasons since the CFP started, the top ranked G5 team has played a Power 5 team that was ranked 11 or higher in the final CFP rankings...and the G5 teams are 4-1 in those games.

Thanks for helping me prove my point that those G5 "fringe top 20 teams" are often good enough to compete with the playoff teams and deserve a shot.


shel311
Nicholls St. Fan
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
65335 posts

re: Create your own playoff format for the NCAA
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OK, so throw in #20 Boise from 2014
That will result in probably more of an uproar than Bama/Ohio St this season, fwiw. So what exactly are you solving?

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Thanks for helping me prove my point that those G5 "fringe top 20 teams" are often good enough to compete with the playoff teams and deserve a shot.
Glad I could help...that's also irrelevant to this discussion. If you have a format of the top 8 teams and are admittingly allowing a fringe top 20 team into your playoff, what are you solving? You're creating a process that then breaks other things even worse than the current process so what's the point?


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