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Cleveland question for LeBron defenders.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:25 pm
Everyone who defends lebrons lack of NBA titles always brings up the fact that "he has no help" and he "carries his entire team".
Why has this been the case for 10 years in Cleveland? (2003-2010 and 2014-2018)
Why would he come back to Cleveland if he felt the management was poor?
Why would no one crawl to Cleveland to play with the greatest player in history?
Why has this been the case for 10 years in Cleveland? (2003-2010 and 2014-2018)
Why would he come back to Cleveland if he felt the management was poor?
Why would no one crawl to Cleveland to play with the greatest player in history?
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Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:26 pm to SECdragonmaster
This is retarded
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:26 pm to SECdragonmaster
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Why would he come back to Cleveland if he felt the management was poor?
Where's he from?
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Why would no one crawl to Cleveland to play with the greatest player in history?
They all stay out West to avoid him until the Finals?
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:30 pm to LNCHBOX
Going back to Cleveland wasn’t an awful decision
It gave him 1 more title, and without the warriors putting togehter what is considered the greatest team ever by many, he would have won 2-3 more titles in Cleveland
It gave him 1 more title, and without the warriors putting togehter what is considered the greatest team ever by many, he would have won 2-3 more titles in Cleveland
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:33 pm to SECdragonmaster
quote:bc all the good or great players could get more money by resigning where they were
Why would no one crawl to Cleveland to play with the greatest player in history?
quote:Cleveland had a pretty good GM until recently and a pretty decent team until the end of last season. What Lebron has lacked is a great coach or even a very good coach.
Why would he come back to Cleveland if he felt the management was poor?
Kobe had Jackson, but the Lakers also were build by a great owner or more importantly by Jerry West. After Shaq left, Jerry West working for the Grizzlies, gift wrapped Gasol to the Lakers, much like McHale gift wrapped Garnett to Boston.
In Miami, Lebron had Riley as a GM, and Riley is probably the greatest in last 50 years. I could go on and on, but haters gonna hate, right?
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
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This is retarded
No really.
I believe his teammates are actually really good. He just does not make them better.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:40 pm to airfernando
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Jerry West working for the Grizzlies, gift wrapped Gasol to the Lakers, much like McHale gift wrapped Garnett to Boston.
West quit the Grizzlies ( with back to back 20 win seasons) before Gasol trade. A trade that actually was a decent trade for the Grizzlies.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:53 pm to SECdragonmaster
I assume you think Michael Jordan was good. How many big time FA's came crawling to the Bulls?
Also, saying people don't like playing with him discounts people like Ilgauskas, Mike Miller, etc. who followed him team to team.
LeBron's first tenure, he made them good enough they didn't have lottery picks for long. Guys like Dajuan Wagner, Darius Miles and Larry Hughes had injuries and flamed out.
His second tenure, he had more talent, but the Warriors are a dominant, exceptionally talented team.
It's hard to bring in talent without higher picks, and LeBron is good enough that his presence alone means no lottery.
Also, saying people don't like playing with him discounts people like Ilgauskas, Mike Miller, etc. who followed him team to team.
LeBron's first tenure, he made them good enough they didn't have lottery picks for long. Guys like Dajuan Wagner, Darius Miles and Larry Hughes had injuries and flamed out.
His second tenure, he had more talent, but the Warriors are a dominant, exceptionally talented team.
It's hard to bring in talent without higher picks, and LeBron is good enough that his presence alone means no lottery.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:54 pm to SECdragonmaster
You are retarded
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:55 pm to SECdragonmaster
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I believe his teammates are actually really good
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:58 pm to SECdragonmaster
Everybody acts like this is the Larry Bird Celtics he’s playing against lol
Posted on 5/15/18 at 9:59 pm to SECdragonmaster
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I believe his teammates are actually really good. He just does not make them better.
Lololololololololol
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:05 pm to SECdragonmaster
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Why has this been the case for 10 years in Cleveland?
quote:Incompetent management who gave him Mo Williams as the best player he played with in 7 seasons.
2003-2010
quote:Golden State Warriors, the greatest team ever assembled.
2014-2018
That's it.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:06 pm to SECdragonmaster
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He just does not make them better.
Who is their 3rd best player? Korver? Really good!!!
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:07 pm to lsupride87
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Going back to Cleveland wasn’t an awful decision
In 2015, playing with Kyrie and Love was much more desirable than playing with Wade and Bosh. This team disintegrated with the quickness when Kyrie wanted out and Isaiah Thomas turned out to be a 5'9 cancerous tumor
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:07 pm to shel311
Lol. This is a banged up Celtics team Keep the excuses coming
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:08 pm to SECdragonmaster
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I believe his teammates are actually really good. He just does not make them better.
FWIW, Mo Williams made an all star team playing with LeBron.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:08 pm to SECdragonmaster
quote:This is even more retarded
I believe his teammates are actually really good. He just does not make them better.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:10 pm to Rep520
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Also, saying people don't like playing with him discounts people like Ilgauskas, Mike Miller, etc. who followed him team to team.
LeBron's first tenure, he made them good enough they didn't have lottery picks for long. Guys like Dajuan Wagner, Darius Miles and Larry Hughes had injuries and flamed out.
All those players sucked. Injury or not.
Posted on 5/15/18 at 10:13 pm to Hamma1122
quote:What does anything you said have to do with what you replied to?
Lol. This is a banged up Celtics team Keep the excuses coming
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