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Changes coming to the structure around NFL refs, including a training program
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:43 am
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:43 am
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A veteran referee turns a routine touchback into a touchdown and reverses his decision only after two alternate officials storm the field to talk him out of it. A questionable interpretation of a new rule stalls a fourth-quarter drive. Centralized replay fails to review a winning touchdown for pass interference. A helmet-to-helmet hit on a starting quarterback goes unaddressed.
Officiating madness during the NFL's wild-card playoff weekend reinforced the league's urgent need to "look at everything" involved in what has been a trying season, as executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent promised he would do last month. League sources expect a significant offseason reckoning that will impact the department's leadership as well as on-field personnel. At the same time, owners must decide whether to scrap or adjust pass interference review, a process that has dinged the league's credibility with its confounding application.
"It's pretty simple," said ESPN officiating analyst John Parry, who retired last spring after 19 seasons as an NFL official. "The league needs to commit resources and money to this. It needs to commit to the resurrection of the officiating department, the staff, the training and the recruiting. There has to be a commitment of people and money to improve it at every level."
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Al Riveron is completing his third season as the league's senior vice president of officiating and, similar to a coach or general manager of a disappointing team, has been subject to rumors about his future. According to sources, some in the league office have advocated a campaign to lure back Riveron's predecessor, Dean Blandino, who works as a Fox Sports officiating analyst as well as a consultant to the NCAA and the XFL.
The current expectation is that Riveron will have a place in the NFL next season but amid a restructured leadership team around and likely above him. The league has already committed to hiring a vice president of training and recruitment, as part of a new collective bargaining agreement it reached with the NFL Referees Association (NFLRA) last fall, and has focused on referee Walt Anderson as a top candidate for that role if he decides to leave the field after this season.
That would give the NFL three executive-level officiating jobs, which also includes the vice president of replay role held by Russell Yurk. There have been discussions about other positions as well, but the primary decision Vincent and commissioner Roger Goodell must make is whether -- and whom -- to add above Riveron in the organizational chart.
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Parry experienced this season from a new perspective, watching every game on television as well as broadcasting ESPN's Monday Night Football. There is little doubt, he said, that "there has been a decrease in the skill level of officiating." His sense, based on two decades in the league, is that the number of preventable missed calls has spiked, many based on mechanical mistakes that can be traced in part to the league's minimal training program.
"To me, the big game-changing errors have increased," Parry said. "And I see that from watching every game on Sunday. I've used the term that officials at times to me seem paralyzed in making a decision, making a judgment. And inside there it starts with mechanics, being in the right position to make the right call."
Last Saturday, for example, referee Tony Corrente's botched kickoff ruling started when he was out of position. He wound up in front of Houston Texans returner DeAndre Carter instead of behind him, where the referee is typically stationed. "So he sort of gave the return man an invitation to catch the kick and toss him the ball," Parry said.
Carter did just that, without taking the official step of kneeling for a touchback. Corrente stepped aside, let the ball drop to the ground and awarded the Buffalo Bills a touchdown after one of their players fell on it. Most referees consider a tossed ball to be a signal that the returner has given himself up. But even if Carter didn't intend to give himself up, his toss should have been ruled an illegal forward pass and a safety rather than a touchdown. Corrente not only suffered a lapse of judgment but he also applied the wrong rule.
"I'm watching that and wondering, 'What was [Corrente] thinking? How did he get to that?'" Parry said. "His head was spinning."
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Young or old, NFL officials are supported by minimal training or continuing education. They receive occasional video instruction from two league trainers, but the NFLRA made the issue a central point of its recent CBA negotiation. In addition to a training executive, the NFLRA pushed the league hard to hire a swath of recently retired officials to beef up training practices.
"That's what we were really interested in and still are," NFLRA executive director Scott Green explained. "We said, 'Let's get somebody in there who is focused on working with young officials. We were and are hoping that this will be a fairly robust program. Everybody agreed it was needed, and we would certainly like to see that kicked off and underway sooner rather than later."
The CBA also provided for a reinstitution of the league's full-time program, through which the NFL hired about 20% of its officials to expand their duties in the offseason following the 2017 and 2018 seasons. The league put it on hold last summer. And Green said he has received no indication of its imminent return.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:51 am to sicboy
Great, now they'll be even more vindictive and continue to frick up games because there is absolutely no repercussions for being terrible at your job
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:54 am to UncleRuckus
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Nobodies reading all that
you should try reading
there's a running theory it's connected to learning
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:59 am to sicboy
quote:billion dollar Corp doesn't have an adequate training program for the refs
including a training program
I want to say I'm surprised, but we see it in every industry. Guys at the top too often (than it should be) are just regular dudes.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:59 am to sicboy
I just don’t think it’s simply a training or these guys need to be full time issue. The game continues to get bigger and faster and the NFL keeps putting more on their plate, they simply can’t keep up. Utilize the great technology you have at your disposal and start phasing these dinosaurs out.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:04 am to sicboy
Same shite, different year.
They say they are going to fix the issue, but the same stupid shite keeps happening every year...blatantly bad calls that aren't changed.
They say they are going to fix the issue, but the same stupid shite keeps happening every year...blatantly bad calls that aren't changed.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:07 am to sicboy
And this helps salvage years of the Saints being fricked how exactly?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:10 am to BilJ
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I just don’t think it’s simply a training or these guys need to be full time issue. The game continues to get bigger and faster and the NFL keeps putting more on their plate, they simply can’t keep up. Utilize the great technology you have at your disposal and start phasing these dinosaurs out.
This.
Plus the quality of officiating continues to decline because of what’s happening at the lower levels across all sports.
99.9% of these guys start out officiating HS where 20+ years ago they were paid well and had the respect of the coaches and fans. That kept them interested and in the mix.
Now you’re in your second year officiating a 2A JV game that you left work early for to make $45 and getting followed to your car and cursed at...sucks for retention. The good guys who don’t need the money stop because the harassment isn’t worth their time.
In short. “Travel ball parents” ruined the officiating ranks...
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:13 am to sicboy
Step 1: Fire Al Riveron
Step 2: Make Officials full time with comprehensive training that goes on all year.
Step 3: Hold them accountable
Step 4: Add a group made up of former officials and players that can review calls in real time and buzz down to change them, a real Eye in the Sky official
Step 2: Make Officials full time with comprehensive training that goes on all year.
Step 3: Hold them accountable
Step 4: Add a group made up of former officials and players that can review calls in real time and buzz down to change them, a real Eye in the Sky official
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:16 am to rondo
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And this helps salvage years of the Saints being fricked how exactly?
.........it doesn't?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 9:29 am to Fun Bunch
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Step 1: Fire Al Riveron
Step 2: Make Officials full time with comprehensive training that goes on all year.
Step 3: Hold them accountable
Step 4: Add a group made up of former officials and players that can review calls in real time and buzz down to change them, a real Eye in the Sky official
Not to mention the ability to implement sensors/cameras/etc all over the field. It's absolutely amazing that we still have some guy just eyeballing these rabid fire spots and two guys marching around with markers and chains in 2020. The NFL could SUBSTANTIALLY upgrade the accuracy of the calls quite easily if they wanted to.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:37 am to UncleRuckus
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Nobodies reading all that
You're right and IDGAF what they do, when Brees retires I'm done with Roger and his NFL
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:38 am to MrJimBeam
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They say they are going to fix the issue, but the same stupid shite keeps happening every year...blatantly bad calls that aren't changed.
Then you review them and still don't change them. It's not just a training issue, it's a Roger issue
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:39 am to sicboy
So, in short, they realize officiating is ruining the games, and people are tuning out. They also aren't dumb, fantasy football is a bubble that will pop sooner than later, so the product on the field has to get better to keep the viewers.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:46 am to Jcorye1
How does the FFB bubble pop exactly?
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:47 am to sicboy
I don’t come on this board to read
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:49 am to sicboy
simplify the rules. players and fans want the game ot be edgy and competitive. Ive never heard either say they want more penalties or bullshite ticky tack calls.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:50 am to sicboy
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The league has already committed to hiring a vice president of training and recruitment, as part of a new collective bargaining agreement it reached with the NFL Referees Association (NFLRA) last fall, and has focused on referee Walt Anderson as a top candidate for that role if he decides to leave the field after this season.
Jesus christ. FUUCK that. There'd be a flag on every damn play with that idiot in charge.
Posted on 1/10/20 at 10:54 am to St Augustine
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Not to mention the ability to implement sensors/cameras/etc all over the field. It's absolutely amazing that we still have some guy just eyeballing these rabid fire spots and two guys marching around with markers and chains in 2020. The NFL could SUBSTANTIALLY upgrade the accuracy of the calls quite easily if they wanted to.
Always wondered why the down markers weren't on some sort of sliding track
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