re: ATL Thread | offseason hot takes + discussion

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You're the one who brought up the respect thing.

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Right, I'm saying you can respect an opinion about a ball player without calling people ignorant. But I am ignorant, so it's all good.

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So why isn't Fried an ace in your eyes?

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Again, selection bias, but it seems like every other game, we were talking about how fortunate he was to get into the 5th inning. I know his ERA, etc., was low but he had to grind and get great defensive help to get through a lot of games. Coupled with his post season woes, I can think of probably 10 pitchers I'd rather have at the top of our rotation, 4 of those being in our own division. Now, a lot of those guys are old, so long term I'd rather have Fried. But if we were just worried about the next couple of years, he'd be down the list.
We'll see what AA ends up doing. If he extends him long term with a huge contract, then I'll eat crow. But I don't think it's going to happen and there would be a reason for that.

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We are meticulously breaking down every little detail of dudes we watch everyday, while largely just getting easily digestible snapshots

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Right, but I don't feel that way with Wright or Strider. Even if their numbers aren't as good. But again, I'm not putting them in the ace category either. He's supposed to be better. (Sorry Hot Carl for disrespecting your crush; but I fully believe he'll be a true ace one day).
And I've fully admitted to a bias. But I've seen too many guys just shove it up our butts which makes the bias even worse. And a lot of that has to do with our offense being so hit or miss. Again, I'm not wanting to get rid of Fried. I just think we need one other guy to be HIM. Especially come playoff time.

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This year in particular, it's because our offense was so strike out heavy, but even then we beat up on some bona-fide aces.

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True.


My second favorite time of the year. Hot Stove time! I'm ready.

That would be surprising, but fantastic.

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Again, selection bias, but it seems like every other game, we were talking about how fortunate he was to get into the 5th inning.

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From Max's game logs this year, he went 6 or more innings 22 of 30 starts. He not once went less than 5. He gave up more than 2 ER in a start just 6 times. 3 of those 6 games he only gave up 3 ERs.

He was clearly not fully recovered from being very sick when it was time to start the postseason.

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He was clearly not fully recovered from being very sick when it was time to start the postseason.

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I'm not one to make excuses for guys but his three rough playoff starts everyone keeps mentioning are all very explainable. He was sicker than a dog this year, and he was tipping his pitches in the two last year.

Money Mike is your NL ROTY

There was discussion on MLB network about Ronald's "ridiculous" contract and basically wants to renegotiate. Of course I am paraphrasing, but that's the gist of it

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Atlanta Braves
@Braves
The #Braves today selected RHP Roddery Muñoz, INF Braden Shewmake, and RHP Darius Vines to the major league roster, while designating RHP Silvino Bracho, OF Guillermo Heredia and RHP William Woods for assignment.

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Acuna for Tatis jr. Would you pull the trigger?