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Arizona, other Pac 12 schools to talk with the Big 12 this week
Posted by cardswinagain
on 7/3/22 at 6:26 pm
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Jason Scheer
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Sources indicate to WildcatAuthority that there will be significant discussions between the Big 12 and Pac-12 this week. It would include four Pac-12 members joining the Big 12.
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Sources indicate to WildcatAuthority.com that there is a meeting between members of the Pac-12 and Big 12 that is scheduled for Tuesday. As of now, the meeting is to discuss Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado joining the Big 12. It is not clear how far down the line the conversations currently are and this is not the first discussion, however, it has been stated that Tuesday is by far the biggest meeting of significance that has taken place.
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Posted by The Scofflaw 
on 7/3/22 at 6:27 pm to cardswinagain
on 7/3/22 at 6:27 pm to cardswinagaindoes the big12 hit the trapdoor on byu, UCF, etc?
Posted by cardswinagain on 7/3/22 at 6:31 pm to The Scofflaw
on 7/3/22 at 6:31 pm to The ScofflawUCF, Houston and Cincy have to be kicking themselves right now. They finally get a seat at the table and it appears to be falling apart
Posted by Lsuhoohoo 
on 7/3/22 at 6:31 pm to cardswinagain
on 7/3/22 at 6:31 pm to cardswinagainWhat becomes of Oregon? Suddenly they're left in a conference of
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
Posted by TomRollTideRitter 
on 7/3/22 at 6:32 pm to The Scofflaw
on 7/3/22 at 6:32 pm to The Scofflawquote:
does the big12 hit the trapdoor on byu, UCF, etc?
Why would they? All the other conferences are going to 16.
There’s no reason to drop BYU, and the others are pretty reasonable growth plays. The only reason it took BYU this long to get into a major conference was politics.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter on 7/3/22 at 6:34 pm to Lsuhoohoo
on 7/3/22 at 6:34 pm to Lsuhoohooquote:
What becomes of Oregon? Suddenly they're left in a conference of Washington Washington State Oregon State Cal Stanford
I don’t think the B1G is done. I don’t think the Mountain time zone schools would be doing this unless they thought UW and Oregon were leaving.
Keep in mind, the networks drive this. Why would FOX not want Washington and Oregon?
I think Stanford gets a bone to persuade Notre Dame to get in there too.
This post was edited on 7/3 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 7/3/22 at 6:35 pm to Lsuhoohoo
on 7/3/22 at 6:35 pm to Lsuhoohooquote:
What becomes of Oregon? Suddenly they're left in a conference of
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
They have Nike money and will use that to get into a better conference.
Posted by KosmoCramer 
on 7/3/22 at 6:36 pm to TomRollTideRitter
on 7/3/22 at 6:36 pm to TomRollTideRitterThe Big 10 might as well just keep expanding to 40 teams and make 10 divisions of 4 teams.
Then the name actually makes sense again.
Then the name actually makes sense again.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa on 7/3/22 at 6:44 pm to Lsuhoohoo
quote:
What becomes of Oregon? Suddenly they're left in a conference of
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
Everyone is talking about Oregon and Washington to the Big10 but not Stanford.
I still can't see Stanford getting left out...they're everything the Big10 covets. Prestige...and committed to a million fricking sports...and winning at them.
Cal is fricked.
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Posted by Ralph_Wiggum on 7/3/22 at 6:50 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
on 7/3/22 at 6:50 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowaI think Oregon and Washington to the B1G with ND and Stanford makes sense. Oregon State, Cal and Washington State belong in the Mountain West. Arizona, Arizona State, Utah and Colorado join the Big 12.
Then the SEC plucks the best four from the ACC.
Then the SEC plucks the best four from the ACC.
Posted by Jwho77 on 7/3/22 at 6:57 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
on 7/3/22 at 6:57 pm to Ralph_Wiggumquote:
Then the SEC plucks the best four from the ACC.
I don't see this happening due to the ACC's GOR and the fact ESPN owns the two TV deals.
Only way it seems like it could happen is if ESPN/SEC convinces the 8 ACC schools that have the most appeal to them to vote out the GOR by majority to join the SEC. That would circumvent any ACC poaching by the B1G and lock in a super 24-team SEC.
Posted by KosmoCramer on 7/3/22 at 6:59 pm to Jwho77
on 7/3/22 at 6:59 pm to Jwho77quote:
Only way it seems like it could happen is if ESPN/SEC convinces the 8 ACC schools that have the most appeal to them to vote out the GOR by majority to join the SEC. That would circumvent any ACC poaching by the B1G and lock in a super 24-team SEC.
What would prevent some of those teams from jumping to the B1G at that point?
Posted by Jwho77 on 7/3/22 at 7:01 pm to KosmoCramer
on 7/3/22 at 7:01 pm to KosmoCramerIt would because it would obviously be all negotiated together. Freedom from their terrible GOR and admission into the SEC with much more TV money in one fell swoop.
Plus it would keep a big core of the ACC together, just under a new SEC umbrella and likely in their own division. I can't imagine any ACC member north of Virginia would be in that number.
Plus it would keep a big core of the ACC together, just under a new SEC umbrella and likely in their own division. I can't imagine any ACC member north of Virginia would be in that number.
This post was edited on 7/3 at 7:07 pm
Posted by LSUSkip on 7/3/22 at 7:07 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
on 7/3/22 at 7:07 pm to Ralph_WiggumEither way, the ACC is the next conference to fall. Really because it's pretty much the last one. Gonna be some hurt feelings too because we're either gonna take 8 or we're gonna take 4. FSU,UNC,UVA hopefully and Clem,NCST,Duke,Miami,or VT have to fight it out if we only take 4.
Posted by WestCoastAg 
on 7/3/22 at 7:12 pm to LSUSkip
on 7/3/22 at 7:12 pm to LSUSkipquote:while not untrue, thats still a decade away unless a monumental shift in college sports happen
Either way, the ACC is the next conference to fall.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter on 7/3/22 at 7:17 pm to WestCoastAg
on 7/3/22 at 7:17 pm to WestCoastAgquote:
while not untrue, thats still a decade away unless a monumental shift in college sports happen
I’ll be pretty shocked if any of the ACC football members get out soon. The B1G may not mind taking on the ACC’s lawyers, but they’ll be scared shitless of Mickey Mouse’s lawyers.
On the flip side, if Greg Sankey calls up ESPN and asks if they can restructure the deal for a Clemson addition to the SEC, that ESPN exec probably tells Greg to gfy.
Posted by UKWildcats 
on 7/3/22 at 8:14 pm to Lsuhoohoo
on 7/3/22 at 8:14 pm to Lsuhoohooquote:
What becomes of Oregon? Suddenly they're left in a conference of
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford
Posted by Jwho77 on 7/3/22 at 8:22 pm to UKWildcats
on 7/3/22 at 8:22 pm to UKWildcatsThe remains of the PAC-?? appear likely to invite schools out west that meet Tier 1 research standards to just make the best of it. That doesn't mean those schools will say yes. We're talking the likes of Utah State, Nevada, Hawaii and Colorado State. But would they be any better off financially than they are now in the Mountain West?
Posted by chalmetteowl on 7/3/22 at 8:27 pm to Jwho77
on 7/3/22 at 8:27 pm to Jwho77quote:
don't see this happening due to the ACC's GOR
What I haven’t seen posted is that this is why they have a GOR, to keep teams from leaving in an environment like this
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