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re: AP Poll and Coaches Poll Released Week 2: Alabama is New #1
Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:41 pm to ZereauxSum
Posted on 9/4/12 at 3:41 pm to ZereauxSum
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Maybe we use adjectives differently.
PJ goes overboard with the hyperbole. A couple of the blocking issues were on Mettenberger, a couple on RB's.
This meme that because the passing game was not close to perfect in game 1, they didn't throw enough is truly rantastic.
no doubt there were things that need to be ironed out, Miles and several players called it sloppy. They threw 26 times, I think that's going to be fairly close to what they throw in most games. It is run oriented offense, just like Bama, if you want to call the conservative, so be it, but they don't have to chuck in 50 times to beat Alabama, they just have to connect on a couple of the ones that are open, and there will be open ones, just like there were in the 2 games last year.
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Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
New avatar and fav. team time.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:22 pm to dukke v
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For all the Miles talk saying we are gonna open up the offense seems like a lie to me.
I never believed for one second the offense would change much. A few more throws, yes but nothing more than that. Anyone thinking this offense would get away from running the ball 60% of the time was just dreaming.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:26 pm to H-Town Tiger
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PJ goes overboard with the hyperbole
That seemed over the top even for him!
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They threw 26 times, I think that's going to be fairly close to what they throw in most games. It is run oriented offense, just like Bama, if you want to call the conservative, so be it, but they don't have to chuck in 50 times to beat Alabama
This. LSU fans really don't seem to understand this. If we had Matt Barkley this would likely be the case.
As an LSU fan, I'm good with any configuration of the top 4. It basically sets up a four team playoff with Bama/LSU and USC/Oregon. We'll find out who is the best in the end.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:27 pm to LSUintheNW
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I never believed for one second the offense would change much. A few more throws, yes but nothing more than that. Anyone thinking this offense would get away from running the ball 60% of the time was just dreaming.
what was the breakdown from 2005-2007? The problem with the offense the last couple of years was not that it was too conservative, it was that the QB play was bad. If Mettenberger is closer to the Russell and Flynn than Jefferson and Lee, then the passing game will be more productive. The overall run/pass % doesn't mean much, because they will run more with big leads in conference games for sure. 5-10 more passes when they run 60-70 plays a game is a pretty big jump.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The problem with the offense the last couple of years was not that it was too conservative, it was that the QB play was bad.
Everyone knows this, although it was fairly conservative because we knew what we had in those two. Which was not much. I blame part of it on the coaching staff not being able to teach them better. I believe a few other staffs could have made them much better than they were.
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If Mettenberger is closer to the Russell and Flynn than Jefferson and Lee, then the passing game will be more productive.
I didn't expect him to be a star immediately, as much as I love LSU football we aren't exactly the best offensive coaching staff in the country (in terms of the QB). He'll grow but I knew we would be working him in. With the D and running game why take any chances by having him win games more with his arm. I see next year be slightly different but we shall see.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:37 pm to rocket31
LSU drops 2 spots in coaches? Really?
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:38 pm to H-Town Tiger
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he problem with the offense the last couple of years was not that it was too conservative, it was that the QB play was bad. If Mettenberger is closer to the Russell and Flynn than Jefferson and Lee, then the passing game will be more productive
This is all I am asking for.They have time toimprove with games against some weak opponents to work on things.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:46 pm to rocket31
I remember when LSU beat Oregon (much better than this overrated Michigan bunch) in similar fashion last year and they jumped OU and Alabama for #1 after Week 1..
Ohh.. Wait.. We did not.
Ohh.. Wait.. We did not.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:52 pm to ZereauxSum
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This. LSU fans really don't seem to understand this. If we had Matt Barkley this would likely be the case.
The year Lienart won the Heisman for USC, they threw 426 passes and had 433 or so rushing attemps no including 49 att by Lienart, which I assume were mostly sacks, so if we add that to the passing att brings it to 475 or basically a 52 P 48 run split. No doubt LSU will run more than we throw, but again, the key is to be effective when passing, not necessarily throwing more passes. If they can't stop the run, no need to stop running.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:53 pm to dukke v
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They have time toimprove with games against some weak opponents to work on things.
exactly, plus there is practice and they will have game film.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:54 pm to LSUAlum2001
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I remember when LSU beat Oregon (much better than this overrated Michigan bunch) in similar fashion last year and they jumped OU and Alabama for #1 after Week 1..
Ohh.. Wait.. We did not.
It shows that the old blue bloods will always get blue blood treatment while new money needs to constantly prove themselves.
To be fair, Bama was #2 and moved up to #1 picking up 45 1st place votes in both polls.
LSU did thump a better Oregon team but you also did move up from #4 to #2 in both polls and picked up 21 1st place votes.
So yeah, Bama like USC and Notre Dame and others carry more weight with lazy voters because of old money name...but you also need to stop crying...it's not as bad a disparity as you think.
This post was edited on 9/4/12 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:55 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If they can't stop the run, no need to stop running.
And this is great. BUT To help the running game even more. Putting some fear into the defenses with just the idea of being able to stretch the feild is a HUGE edge for LSU over anyone.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 4:58 pm to H-Town Tiger
I think the media wants their 2 favorite teams tied for #1. but it'll take a few polls for their manipulation to take shape.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 5:27 pm to dukke v
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Putting some fear into the defenses with just the idea of being able to stretch the feild is a HUGE edge for LSU over anyone.
All they have to do is hit a couple to open it up I think they did just that. If he gets hurt, its over. There are things that need to be improved, but i don't see where another 10 pass v NTU would have made much difference.
Posted on 9/4/12 at 5:32 pm to rocket31
looks about right to me
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:01 pm to rocket31
I know the preseason coaches poll was very close 1-2-3 but has a team ever dropped from 1 to 3 after winning the previous week?
Posted on 9/4/12 at 6:08 pm to rocket31
USC beat writer Scott Wolfe ballot:
He's such a tool. Same guy who kept voting Boise St. #1 last year.
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Oklahoma
5. Florida State
6. Oregon
7. Georgia
8. South Carolina
9. Virginia Tech
10. Arkansas
11. Kansas State
12. Texas
13. Louisville
14. Ohio State
15. West Virginia
16. Wisconsin
17. Nebraska
18. Michigan
19. Clemson
20. Michigan State
21. Utah
22. TCU
23. Florida
24. Stanford
25. Notre Dame
He's such a tool. Same guy who kept voting Boise St. #1 last year.
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. USC
4. Oklahoma
5. Florida State
6. Oregon
7. Georgia
8. South Carolina
9. Virginia Tech
10. Arkansas
11. Kansas State
12. Texas
13. Louisville
14. Ohio State
15. West Virginia
16. Wisconsin
17. Nebraska
18. Michigan
19. Clemson
20. Michigan State
21. Utah
22. TCU
23. Florida
24. Stanford
25. Notre Dame
Posted on 9/4/12 at 7:55 pm to Zamoro10
So what's wrong with his ballot?
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