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A thread specifically to ask questions and hopefully recieve answers
Posted on 11/7/20 at 9:55 am
Posted on 11/7/20 at 9:55 am
I have always thought there should be a place for people to ask sports or slang/abbreviation questions. It may seem dumb but I guarantee you that almost all of you have a question about something but didnt know where or how to ask it without starting a thread.
So,I'll go first ,because I know someone will know this and it's been something I've thought about quite often over the years I'd rather hear the answer here instead of Googling it.
Question:what's the difference between an air raid offense and a run and shoot offense. I know the differences between the air raid and your typical spread offense . I just dont know where the run and shoot fits in there .
So,I'll go first ,because I know someone will know this and it's been something I've thought about quite often over the years I'd rather hear the answer here instead of Googling it.
Question:what's the difference between an air raid offense and a run and shoot offense. I know the differences between the air raid and your typical spread offense . I just dont know where the run and shoot fits in there .
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 9:58 am
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 9:56 am to Tigerpride18
I always took run and shoot to mean an offense similar to Okie St... good mix of both with no huddle... air raid I picture more of a Leach offense with basically no threat of the ground game
Posted on 11/7/20 at 9:57 am to Tigerpride18
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Question:what's the difference between an air raid offense and a run and shoot offense.
These are of course generalities but the Air raid is an evolution of the run and shoot and utilizes more west coast principles like slants and rb passes. Air raid also tends to split OL out from each other a little more. Run N Shoot wants to play more of a vertical passing game complimented by a power running game. Air raid uses more combo and timing routes to throw to a spot or catch a team out of position if they tip they’re running man or zone.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 10:00 am
Posted on 11/7/20 at 9:59 am to Draconian Sanctions
Ok ,so run and shoot is basically the air raid with more running and a pro style route tree?
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:01 am to Tigerpride18
Traditionally yes, when I think run and shoot I think Jeff George Falcons, when I think Air Raid I think Leach or Kingsbury Cardinals so plenty of variation out there.
The Run and Shoot was developed before combo and timing routes were really a thing. If you’re from Louisiana the Evangel teams of the late 90’s were an early Air Raid that baffled DCs at the time because they lined up and knew what spot they wanted to throw to based on your alignment. It was literally unstoppable until defenses figured out how to disguise coverage or run combo defenses with man on one side zone on the other.
The Run and Shoot was developed before combo and timing routes were really a thing. If you’re from Louisiana the Evangel teams of the late 90’s were an early Air Raid that baffled DCs at the time because they lined up and knew what spot they wanted to throw to based on your alignment. It was literally unstoppable until defenses figured out how to disguise coverage or run combo defenses with man on one side zone on the other.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 10:04 am
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:05 am to Tigerpride18
my thinking has been-
run and shoot WRs makes adjustments based on the defense, have options
air raid QB makes the call prior to the snap
run and shoot WRs makes adjustments based on the defense, have options
air raid QB makes the call prior to the snap
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:06 am to TigerintheNO
I think that depends entirely on the QB
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:10 am to Tigerpride18
The traditional run and shoot was also under center. An art that's becoming lost to QBs.
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:11 am to Tigerpride18
Put very, very simply: the air raid is the spread offense that uses short passes and screens in place of the inside run game.
The run and shoot had QB under center with 3 or 4 WR on the field and a big fullback type at RB.
The run and shoot had QB under center with 3 or 4 WR on the field and a big fullback type at RB.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:14 am to Tigerpride18
I always thought Air Raid was more short passes and using those short passes as a pseudo run game. Also quick reads (1-2 options) and if nothing then dump off to RB air release valve.
Run and shoot has more receiver option routes, and still relies on the run game.
Also thanks NCAA 14 for getting me into the intricacies of playbooks
Run and shoot has more receiver option routes, and still relies on the run game.
Also thanks NCAA 14 for getting me into the intricacies of playbooks
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:14 am to Tigerpride18
WRs have option routes in the air raid
There are usually 2 safe routes in case the line is blown up, but the other 2 or 3 receivers run a route depending on coverage
There are usually 2 safe routes in case the line is blown up, but the other 2 or 3 receivers run a route depending on coverage
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:42 am to Tigerpride18
Couple good examples of Run n Shoot would be the 90’s Oilers with Warren Moon, and the Houston Gamblers of the USFL with Jim Kelly.
Coach Mouse Davis was big in advancing the Run n Shoot. There are old playbooks online from the Gamblers and you can see it’s fundamental aspects.
Coach Mouse Davis was big in advancing the Run n Shoot. There are old playbooks online from the Gamblers and you can see it’s fundamental aspects.
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:48 am to VermilionTiger
For the sake of my thread, anybody have any questions about anything? like why does the sportscenter anchor,jon buccigrass, make that stupid half singing noise everytime he does a james harden highlight? Wtf does it mean?
I know nobody will know ,because they never watch espn and wear that as a badge of honor ,for some strange reason , but I'm hoping someone knows what that comes from.
It sounds something like, uwoo-woo-woo,wooo.
For the love of God what does it mean. It drives me nuts and its literally every single time he does the highlight and its specifically aimed at james harden. I bet boomshocka would know
I know nobody will know ,because they never watch espn and wear that as a badge of honor ,for some strange reason , but I'm hoping someone knows what that comes from.
It sounds something like, uwoo-woo-woo,wooo.
For the love of God what does it mean. It drives me nuts and its literally every single time he does the highlight and its specifically aimed at james harden. I bet boomshocka would know
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:53 am to Tigerpride18
And what does it mean when that dude that says hes got a high iq, ,who says hes In the basketball film room every night, breaking down games, says "frfr" ,is that a slang abbreviation of"for real?"
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:55 am to Bags of Milk
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Also thanks NCAA 14 for getting me into the intricacies of playbooks
That's how I started learning about them as well
Then went to Pat Kirwan and Tim Layden books. The Ticket led me to Chris B. Brown. I like reading up on things like that because you gain a different appreciation for the game each weekend
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