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8 game playoff - Fix CFB Schedules
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:50 am
The biggest problem with CFB is we can't accurately establish the strength of each conference because there's so little crossover.
In 2018 looking at P5 OOC the ACC went 3-6, Big 12 4-6, Big 10 6-7, Pac-12 4-5, SEC 7-3.
What we need is a 9 game conference schedule, remove conference divisions, require every P5 to play 2 OOC games against P5, and leave one "floater" aka "rent-a-win".
What this would do is help establish the strength of each conference with 28 match ups instead of 9 to 13. It would make for more interesting TV games, better home and away schedules for your team, and it makes it much easier to compare 10-2 teams from around the country. You can drop conference championships and play round 1 in home stadiums. You say an 8 game playoff waters down the regular season, but I say 65 new OOC P5 match ups more than makes up for it.
In 2018 looking at P5 OOC the ACC went 3-6, Big 12 4-6, Big 10 6-7, Pac-12 4-5, SEC 7-3.
What we need is a 9 game conference schedule, remove conference divisions, require every P5 to play 2 OOC games against P5, and leave one "floater" aka "rent-a-win".
What this would do is help establish the strength of each conference with 28 match ups instead of 9 to 13. It would make for more interesting TV games, better home and away schedules for your team, and it makes it much easier to compare 10-2 teams from around the country. You can drop conference championships and play round 1 in home stadiums. You say an 8 game playoff waters down the regular season, but I say 65 new OOC P5 match ups more than makes up for it.
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:53 am to JB Bama
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The biggest problem with CFB
we turned something that should be fairly simple into a clusterfrick of bureaucratic nonsense and arbitrary decision making
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:58 am to JB Bama
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:01 am to Winston Cup
The bowl games should be the NIT/CBI of CFB. The playoff should be the “March Madness.” Home teams host except for the championship game, which can be rotated around to the traditional bowl sites.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:02 am to JB Bama
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The biggest problem with CFB is we can't accurately establish the strength of each conference because there's so little crossover.
In 2018 looking at P5 OOC the ACC went 3-6, Big 12 4-6, Big 10 6-7, Pac-12 4-5, SEC 7-3.
What we need is a 9 game conference schedule, remove conference divisions, require every P5 to play 2 OOC games against P5, and leave one "floater" aka "rent-a-win".
Agreed. Ive been harping on this for a while. Would instantly give CFB a spark it needs. Ive yet to see one persuasive argument against this sort of reform....other than the "I wanna sound smarter than you" people who harp on about "revenue"
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:08 am to msutiger
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I'd love to see everything but the Championship played in home stadiums.
Could you imagine some of these stadiums for a semi-final matchup? It would be bonkers.
The NCAA would find a way to frick this up and make it a requirement that 30% of tickets need to go to the "away" team so that it is a fair environment.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:22 am to JB Bama
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What we need is a 9 game conference schedule, remove conference divisions, require every P5 to play 2 OOC games against P5, and leave one "floater" aka "rent-a-win".
I would counter that we return to 6 BCS conferences (welcome back, Big East) each with 12 teams where each conference plays 8 games and a conference title game, they have 3 OOC games against P5 opponents (all home/at home or no more than one neutral site regular season game per year), and one floater. This would allow for teams to have a permanent OOC rival without severely limiting their availability to schedule marquee OOC opponents.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:30 am to kingbob
As much as you want it to happen, that's not happening. Best chance of things evening out is the Big 12 going kaput and getting raided. Then at least you'd have 4 similar conferences.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 11:31 am
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:39 am to RoscoeHarper
I'm all for conference re-alignment but for now I'd settle for a way to determine conference strength. Without it we're flying blind comparing 1 and 2 loss teams.
Right now your best option is to schedule the easiest 4 cupcakes you can and survive your conference schedule.
I don't see a P5 undefeated getting left out of the playoff so until one does that would be my strategy as an AD.
Right now your best option is to schedule the easiest 4 cupcakes you can and survive your conference schedule.
I don't see a P5 undefeated getting left out of the playoff so until one does that would be my strategy as an AD.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:45 am to JB Bama
I think you need to have divisions OR a round-robin.
I don't want a 14 team conference, no divisions, and have two teams (or more) teams tied for first, having not played each other.
I don't understand why people want to get rid of the conference champ game. If we need to cut a game, go back to 11 game regular season.
10 games must be against Power 5 teams. 1 game can be against Group of 5. No games allowed against teams from other divisions.
I don't want a 14 team conference, no divisions, and have two teams (or more) teams tied for first, having not played each other.
I don't understand why people want to get rid of the conference champ game. If we need to cut a game, go back to 11 game regular season.
10 games must be against Power 5 teams. 1 game can be against Group of 5. No games allowed against teams from other divisions.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:57 am to RoscoeHarper
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Best chance of things evening out is the Big 12 going kaput and getting raided. Then at least you'd have 4 similar conferences.
That really is the only way this works out even though I don't like the idea of the Texas schools playing in a west coast conference. Here's what that could look like:
Big 10
East
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan St
Indiana
Purdue
Notre Dame
Illinois
Northwestern
West
Wisconsin
Iowa
Minnesota
Iowa St
Kansas
Kansas St
Nebraska
Mizzou
Pac 12
East
Arizona
Arizona St
Utah
Colorado
Texas
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU
West
Wazzou
Washington
Oregon
Oregon St
Cal
Stanford
USC
UCLA
ACC
North
Boston College
Penn State
Maryland
Pitt
West Virginia
Syracuse
Virginia Tech
Virginia
South
UNC
Duke
NC St
Wake Forest
Georgia Tech
Clemson
Florida St
Miami
SEC
East
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
Louisville
Auburn
West
LSU
Arkansas
Ole Mis
Miss State
Alabama
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
OK St
There's a few different possibilities that toy with different P5 teams getting pushed out to make room for Notre Dame. In this one, Rutgers was the odd one out, but we could make up hypos where the last one out is any one of Purdue, Iowa St, Wake Forest, TCU, etc. Right now, the P5 is 64 teams, so if Notre Dame is getting in, it's at the expense of somebody.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:00 pm to kingbob
I think we can all agree scheduling needs to be fixed. Especially in the SEC. Bama and Auburn having to play their "rivals" every year with TN and UGA fricks everyone else up and doesn't allow for a true rotation to occur. I'm just glad I got to go see LSU TN play in Neyland. Going to be another 11 years before that happens again.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:16 pm to poncho villa
The permanent cross-division rivals are less a problem than having 14 conference members rather than just 12. With 12, even with the rivalries, you still managed to play all of the teams in the other division home and away every 4 years.
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