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538: The Best College Football Programs Of The 1990s Are All Suddenly Terrible

Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:24 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:24 pm
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When I was growing up in the 1990s, it was hard to imagine the football programs at Florida State and Nebraska ever losing steam. The Huskers won national championships in 1994, 1995 and 1997;1 FSU took its own titles in 1993 and 1999 (plus went to two more BCS Championship Games, in 1998 and 2000). The two dynasties edged out Florida and Tennessee for the most victories in Division I-A in the ’90s, winning 218 games combined2 during the decade.

Those halcyon days are a distant memory now, after a weekend that saw Florida State lose to Syracuse for the first time since 1966 — and saw Nebraska do the Seminoles one better, starting a season 0-2 for the first time since 1957. Now they’re part of a group of formerly great teams that have started the 2018 season as badly as any version of their programs have in the past several decades.

Some of these teams will get a chance to start turning things around soon … against one another. Florida and Tennessee play on Saturday, while Nebraska will play Michigan — a fellow titan of college football history that, while not quite on the same historically bad trajectory as the teams above, also finds itself out of sorts over Jim Harbaugh’s record against top opponents. For all of these programs, a rich history can also be a burden that weighs down future teams, forcing them into the constant pursuit of their own past.

Before that can happen, though, these once-great teams need to end their current slides. At their ’90s peaks, the Seminoles and Huskers made winning look so effortless that a collapse seemed impossible. Now that they’ve proven even the most storied programs aren’t invincible, perhaps the rebuilding process for the next great dynasties can finally begin in earnest.


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This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 6:27 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84609 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:33 pm to
I don't know if Taggert is that bad or if Jimbo was that good.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145056 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:33 pm to
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if Taggert is that bad or if Jimbo was that good.
yes
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:34 pm to
It’s all cyclical


Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:36 pm to
Oklahoma, USC, Bama (92 notwithstanding), Texas (4 greatest programs of all time?) were all pretty down. Florida and FSU were relevant for the first time ever. Teams like Colorado and Arizona were powers at times. Georgia Tech won a national title. The 90s were weird.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94820 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:38 pm to
Everything is cyclical.

The programs which bottomed our in the 90s like Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, USC, etc, are now at or near top tier status.
Posted by BRUNNIN4
DFW
Member since Mar 2010
3060 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:42 pm to
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Oklahoma, USC, Bama (92 notwithstanding), Texas (4 greatest programs of all time?)

Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25849 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Florida and FSU were relevant for the first time ever. Teams like Colorado and Arizona were powers at times. Georgia Tech won a national title. The 90s were weird.


For what it's worth, this is why I never get why fans insist on saying things will never happen in CFB. Or because you didn't win in 100 years you can't ever win in the future.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:57 pm to
FSU was pretty bad last year too. Needed to win a makeup game with ULM to make a bowl
Posted by corneredbeast
02134
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:59 pm to
538 meeting reality

Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44697 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:03 pm to
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I don't know if Taggert is that bad


I do. That team looks lost every time they step on the field
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51235 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:03 pm to
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The 90s were weird.


I know. South Carolina actually beat LSU in this period.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:06 pm to
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For what it's worth, this is why I never get why fans insist on saying things will never happen in CFB. Or because you didn't win in 100 years you can't ever win in the future.
Well the state of Florida underwent a dramatic population shift in the 20th century that you can't really foresee happening anywhere else again. They had the resources and had been recognized as a sleeping giant for decades. Miami broke out in the 80s, it took the right coaches for the state schools to do so a decade later. It wasn't exactly a surprise.

As far as teams like Wazzu and Colorado being relevant, again many of your elite programs were down, a lot of it due to NCAA stuff, and it left a power vacuum that had to be filled by someone
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:08 pm to
Well LSU was terrible in the 90’s so I’m totally fine with this
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:12 pm to
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Everything is cyclical


Sort of

For a team like Nebraska or to a lesser extent Tennessee they don’t have strong recruiting bases and no longer have the “our games are always on tv!” angle to sell out of state recruits. Nebraska also can’t game the scholarship system as easily today. Not saying those teams can’t get good but I seriously doubt Nebraska will get anywhere near 3 NCs in 4 years again in any of our lifetimes.

Michigan has had a dramatic population downswing in their state over the last 30-40 years which has really hurt their recruiting base and they too no longer have the TV angle to sell.

Florida State is not paying their assistant coaches or building facilities those coaches want/need. Florida also has a facility deficit. These are somewhat self imposed and can easily swing but “cyclical” isn’t the right word.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 7:15 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94820 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:26 pm to
What Nebraska did is a feat I think Alabama would be hard-pressed to pull off today.


With current conference schedules and the bowl playoffs being what they are, it's a lot harder to win one than it was to win a conference where you only had to care about Colorado and K-State then beat a Florida or Florida State in the bowl game.
Posted by Hook Em Horns
350000 posts
Member since Sep 2010
15072 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:31 pm to
Are you blind? They are basically doing it now
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:32 pm to
The media didn't even talk about schedules then. The Big East wasn't even really a major conference, I mean it was an absolute joke and yet it was never held against Miami for some reason
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94820 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:33 pm to
They ain't there yet.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7864 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:42 pm to
Huh?. Alabama has won 5 national titles in 9 years and showing no signs of letting up. Nebraska nor any other program has done what Alabama has been doing right now.
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