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538: The Best College Football Programs Of The 1990s Are All Suddenly Terrible
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:24 pm
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When I was growing up in the 1990s, it was hard to imagine the football programs at Florida State and Nebraska ever losing steam. The Huskers won national championships in 1994, 1995 and 1997;1 FSU took its own titles in 1993 and 1999 (plus went to two more BCS Championship Games, in 1998 and 2000). The two dynasties edged out Florida and Tennessee for the most victories in Division I-A in the ’90s, winning 218 games combined2 during the decade.
Those halcyon days are a distant memory now, after a weekend that saw Florida State lose to Syracuse for the first time since 1966 — and saw Nebraska do the Seminoles one better, starting a season 0-2 for the first time since 1957. Now they’re part of a group of formerly great teams that have started the 2018 season as badly as any version of their programs have in the past several decades.
Some of these teams will get a chance to start turning things around soon … against one another. Florida and Tennessee play on Saturday, while Nebraska will play Michigan — a fellow titan of college football history that, while not quite on the same historically bad trajectory as the teams above, also finds itself out of sorts over Jim Harbaugh’s record against top opponents. For all of these programs, a rich history can also be a burden that weighs down future teams, forcing them into the constant pursuit of their own past.
Before that can happen, though, these once-great teams need to end their current slides. At their ’90s peaks, the Seminoles and Huskers made winning look so effortless that a collapse seemed impossible. Now that they’ve proven even the most storied programs aren’t invincible, perhaps the rebuilding process for the next great dynasties can finally begin in earnest.
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This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:33 pm to Bench McElroy
I don't know if Taggert is that bad or if Jimbo was that good.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:33 pm to slackster
quote:yes
if Taggert is that bad or if Jimbo was that good.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:36 pm to Bench McElroy
Oklahoma, USC, Bama (92 notwithstanding), Texas (4 greatest programs of all time?) were all pretty down. Florida and FSU were relevant for the first time ever. Teams like Colorado and Arizona were powers at times. Georgia Tech won a national title. The 90s were weird.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:38 pm to Bench McElroy
Everything is cyclical.
The programs which bottomed our in the 90s like Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, USC, etc, are now at or near top tier status.
The programs which bottomed our in the 90s like Oklahoma, LSU, Bama, USC, etc, are now at or near top tier status.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:42 pm to genro
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Oklahoma, USC, Bama (92 notwithstanding), Texas (4 greatest programs of all time?)
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:54 pm to genro
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Florida and FSU were relevant for the first time ever. Teams like Colorado and Arizona were powers at times. Georgia Tech won a national title. The 90s were weird.
For what it's worth, this is why I never get why fans insist on saying things will never happen in CFB. Or because you didn't win in 100 years you can't ever win in the future.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:57 pm to slackster
FSU was pretty bad last year too. Needed to win a makeup game with ULM to make a bowl
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:03 pm to slackster
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I don't know if Taggert is that bad
I do. That team looks lost every time they step on the field
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:03 pm to genro
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The 90s were weird.
I know. South Carolina actually beat LSU in this period.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:06 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:Well the state of Florida underwent a dramatic population shift in the 20th century that you can't really foresee happening anywhere else again. They had the resources and had been recognized as a sleeping giant for decades. Miami broke out in the 80s, it took the right coaches for the state schools to do so a decade later. It wasn't exactly a surprise.
For what it's worth, this is why I never get why fans insist on saying things will never happen in CFB. Or because you didn't win in 100 years you can't ever win in the future.
As far as teams like Wazzu and Colorado being relevant, again many of your elite programs were down, a lot of it due to NCAA stuff, and it left a power vacuum that had to be filled by someone
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:08 pm to Bench McElroy
Well LSU was terrible in the 90’s so I’m totally fine with this
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:12 pm to teke184
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Everything is cyclical
Sort of
For a team like Nebraska or to a lesser extent Tennessee they don’t have strong recruiting bases and no longer have the “our games are always on tv!” angle to sell out of state recruits. Nebraska also can’t game the scholarship system as easily today. Not saying those teams can’t get good but I seriously doubt Nebraska will get anywhere near 3 NCs in 4 years again in any of our lifetimes.
Michigan has had a dramatic population downswing in their state over the last 30-40 years which has really hurt their recruiting base and they too no longer have the TV angle to sell.
Florida State is not paying their assistant coaches or building facilities those coaches want/need. Florida also has a facility deficit. These are somewhat self imposed and can easily swing but “cyclical” isn’t the right word.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:26 pm to Draconian Sanctions
What Nebraska did is a feat I think Alabama would be hard-pressed to pull off today.
With current conference schedules and the bowl playoffs being what they are, it's a lot harder to win one than it was to win a conference where you only had to care about Colorado and K-State then beat a Florida or Florida State in the bowl game.
With current conference schedules and the bowl playoffs being what they are, it's a lot harder to win one than it was to win a conference where you only had to care about Colorado and K-State then beat a Florida or Florida State in the bowl game.
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:31 pm to teke184
Are you blind? They are basically doing it now
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:32 pm to teke184
The media didn't even talk about schedules then. The Big East wasn't even really a major conference, I mean it was an absolute joke and yet it was never held against Miami for some reason
Posted on 9/17/18 at 7:42 pm to teke184
Huh?. Alabama has won 5 national titles in 9 years and showing no signs of letting up. Nebraska nor any other program has done what Alabama has been doing right now.
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