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5 worst deals among college football coaches contracts
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:35 pm
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Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
It’s not just the length of Ferentz’s deal, which runs through Jan. 31, 2026, that makes it problematic; It’s also the bonuses and buyout parameters. If Iowa were to terminate Ferentz's contract without cause Dec. 1, it would owe him an amount in excess of $22.5 million.
In the meantime, his base salary is scheduled to increase by $100,000 every year and every eight-win season will automatically trigger a $500,000 bonus. It's a hefty price to pay for a coach who has led his team to double-figure wins just twice in the last decade.
Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech
Jim Mora, UCLA
Bobby Petrino, Louisville
Lovie Smith, Illinois
Smith’s buyout — a whopping $16.5 million, which ranks 11th in our database — single-handedly lands him on this list
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Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
Kirk Ferentz's agent deserves every penny he gets from his client for the deals he negotiated. That's crazy.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:44 pm to SCLibertarian
Not really. Iowa is good every 5 years. Probably the top end for that program. You never realize how good a coach is at an average program until they leave. Look at Kansas St and Mizzou.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
I once had an Iowa fan tell me they were just happy winning 7-9 games a year and maybe competing in the Big 10 every few years. He said they were afraid if they ran Ferentz off they'd end up in the cellar.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:49 pm to lsuhunt555
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I once had an Iowa fan tell me they were just happy winning 7-9 games a year and maybe competing in the Big 10 every few years. He said they were afraid if they ran Ferentz off they'd end up in the cellar.
Their buttholes are probably even more puckered now seeing the cyclones on the rise. If Campbell doesn't jump ship, they'll dominate the state.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:52 pm to RLDSC FAN
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In the meantime, his base salary is scheduled to increase by $100,000 every year and every eight-win season will automatically trigger a $500,000 bonus. It's a hefty price to pay for a coach who has led his team to double-figure wins just twice in the last decade.
That's pretty crazy, but Ferentz had Iowa in the conference championship in 2015 in what essentially was a play-in game for the 2015 CFP Top 4.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 3:55 pm to RLDSC FAN
Rocket31 will be here soon with his obvious answer
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:02 pm to lsuhunt555
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I once had an Iowa fan tell me they were just happy winning 7-9 games a year and maybe competing in the Big 10 every few years. He said they were afraid if they ran Ferentz off they'd end up in the cellar.
Doesn't seem too far fetched considering they know what they will get (mediocrity) with Ferentz.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:06 pm to idlewatcher
yeah Iowa is a program that can easily be absolute dog shite in a year or 2 without a great coach, and with Saban wouldn't win 10 games regularly
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:09 pm to TH03
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If Campbell doesn't jump ship, they'll dominate the state.
They might get another year out of him, but no way he makes it more than one more before chasing the coin, right?
Posted on 10/30/17 at 4:51 pm to RLDSC FAN
Willie Fritz makes $1.6m and is 7-12 in a talent rich state where he could build a winner with TX/LA/MS talent ALONE.
For comparison purposes:
Bryan Harsin makes $1.6m and is 36-11 in a talent poor state where he has to jet miles and miles to put together a decent team.
Jay Hopson makes only $600k but is still 12-8. He is in a similar recruiting situation to Willie Fritz.
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It's still early days, but Fritz is nowhere near delivering for what he's being paid...
For comparison purposes:
Bryan Harsin makes $1.6m and is 36-11 in a talent poor state where he has to jet miles and miles to put together a decent team.
Jay Hopson makes only $600k but is still 12-8. He is in a similar recruiting situation to Willie Fritz.
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It's still early days, but Fritz is nowhere near delivering for what he's being paid...
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:12 pm to lsuhunt555
Depends on what job he wants. He came to Ames with Toledo and mentioned Iowa State was a sleeping giant so maybe he wants to stay there a few. If he keeps winning for a few years and the LSU job opens up, I want him.
But if he does really well and a one Nick saban retires he would surely get a good hard look there. Harbaugh probably has one or two more years to right that ship or be gone. USC could be open soon.
But if he does really well and a one Nick saban retires he would surely get a good hard look there. Harbaugh probably has one or two more years to right that ship or be gone. USC could be open soon.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
Kirk “Bobby Bonilla” Ferentz
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:20 pm to TH03
I don't see Iowa State as a "sleeping giant." Recruiting at a high level seems like it would be very difficult in Iowa. Now if he stayed I think he could turn them into a consistently good team.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:25 pm to GeauxTigers123
I read the quote wrong. He was referring to their offense that year. 
Disregard that part of the other post.
But you're right. I don't see consistent 10 wins or anything, but there's no reason to not win 6+ each year with the occasional 9 or more year. They have top tier facilities that have all been upgraded recently. One of the biggest stadiums in the conference with great fan support too.
Disregard that part of the other post.
But you're right. I don't see consistent 10 wins or anything, but there's no reason to not win 6+ each year with the occasional 9 or more year. They have top tier facilities that have all been upgraded recently. One of the biggest stadiums in the conference with great fan support too.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Meh. If Wisconsin does it, so can Iowa. Nothing holding them back. They have great fan support and Kinnock Stadium looks awesome. 
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:39 pm to oliveandblue
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Willie Fritz makes $1.6m and is 7-12 in a talent rich state where he could build a winner with TX/LA/MS talent ALONE.
For comparison purposes:
Bryan Harsin makes $1.6m and is 36-11 in a talent poor state where he has to jet miles and miles to put together a decent team.
Jay Hopson makes only $600k but is still 12-8. He is in a similar recruiting situation to Willie Fritz.
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It's still early days, but Fritz is nowhere near delivering for what he's being paid...
Simply looking at W/L record is a terrible way to judge how a coach is doing.
Willie Fritz took over a team that was dogshit while Harsin and Hopson took over teams that were much better off talent wise and coming off winning seasons. They didn't have to do full rebuilds like Fritz is doing. Also keep in mind that Fritz is in a tougher conference than both of them.
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yeah Iowa is a program that can easily be absolute dog shite in a year or 2 without a great coach
Hiring & firing coaches is expensive. A school like Iowa could easily get in a situation where they are hiring, then firing a new coach every 4-5 years.
They would pay a ton in salary to attract a decent candidate, pay his buyout at his previous school, then probably owe him money after they fired him. Then they would start the cycle all over.
At least they know what they have with Ferentz. Iowa will go to a bowl most years, occasionally have a losing record, but will also have a few 11 or 12 win seasons and play in a major bowl.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:43 pm to Sevendust912
Iowa and Wisconsin are similar in that if they win 10 games every three years and make bowl games the fanbase is happy. It's that Wisconsin wins 10 games more consistently. Iowa actually got a good deal when you think about how hard it is to win at Iowa.
Posted on 10/30/17 at 5:44 pm to Ghost of Colby
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Hiring & firing coaches is expensive. A school like Iowa could easily get in a situation where they are hiring, then firing a new coach every 4-5 years.
They would pay a ton in salary to attract a decent candidate, pay his buyout at his previous school, then probably owe him money after they fired him. Then they would start the cycle all over.
exactly
Ferentz isn't perfect, but he's had major success and is the Devil they know
Iowa could be legit 2-win teams for 20 years straight if they fired him and hired the wrong guy. once a program like that hires the wrong guy it can go south quickly, and then nobody worth a shite will take the job for a few cycles. they'll have to swing for the fences, which fails more often than it succeeds in CFB
This post was edited on 10/30/17 at 5:45 pm
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